Saint Patrick

Just wondering how a Boxter s (3.2) would fair against a 01 wrx, in terms of hanlding, acceleration, top speeds ??

Pat

LG John

Straight line = boxter S
Most twisties (dry) = boxter S
Tight muddy c-class road = fugly
Wet b-c class roads = fugly
wet a class road = similar, poss boxter
In the pub = modified nova's

In short a well driven Boxter S will give a standard bugeye real trouble but some tasteful mods to the scooby changes things.

Brun

MY99 v's Boxter S = 1-0 Scoob.

Dracoro

Saxo Boy - but you could just go and modify the Boxster as well!

Dales

Done lots of miles in both of them. For me, the subaru inspires confidence in all conditions and I could personally drive it much quicker than the Porsche in any conditions, wet or dry, bumpy or smooth.

Straight line performance was similar at sensible speeds, although Porsche much quicker as you start to stray towards 3 figures.

Main Porsche advantage is absolutely stupendous braking, although overall it left me fairly cold.

In summary, to me the Porsche is overrated unless you are a driving god.

PS - I am comparing it to a UK MY00. Never driven a bug eye.

image doctor

260bhp RWD V 218bhp AWD

It awazes me to think that people still think the scoob will be quicker? Even modding the scoob the boxster still has to be faster due to being 2WD.

Only a wet road and traffic light GP will the impreza be quicker IMHO.

Paul STi 5

Scoobs get the power from the engine to the wheels better than the porkey. Its a shame your compairing the porky to a new shape scoob, not the old shape. The new shapes just dont drive as well and there slower.
At least people wont hate you and will let you out of side turnings in a scoob.
My old STi 5 type R used to rip the doors off any boxer. It was great fun picking on them, aahhhh bless there cotton soaks.

Dome101

Boxer S- Hairdresser. Get a proper Porsche-Air cooled 911

Yorkie

Saxo Boy, I don't know where or how you base your information but I have owned a MY99 Turbo and now a MY02. Whilst I thought the "fugly" (as you refer to it) felt slower at first, since the miles have piled on it is AS fast now flat out and IMHO handles better. It may not FEEL like it is blowing your socks off in a straight line like the MY99 (thats refinement and linear acceleration for you ), but believe me there is little to separate a standard MY99 and a MY02 once its engine has loosened up. I am sure my car would give a Boxster a run for its money, my MY99 once did
I speak from experience.

grabber

boxers vs sti v4 ........lmfao

si325i

boxter, hair dresses car. as said. Paul maybe you raced a 2.5 thats why you won. try racing a proper porsche on of the last 911 (933) 4 wheels drive 3.6
or the new one 420BHP 4.2 TO 60 and 189 TOPSPEED.
as for the Nova's. i saw one the other day with a sticker in the back window. "YOU JUST BEEN NOVATAKEN". it was parked tho.. LOL

Toonman1

"MY99 Turbo and now a MY02"

I agree Yorkie! Why do some keep hanging onto the idea the 02 is slow etc etc? It's a way better car than the classic shape, and I've owned 3 of those - 94, 96 and 98. My 02 PPP is more than capable of keeping up with an STi7.

As for the Boxster; never driven an S, but the other std model, fine car that I thought it was, is just too slow. Only did about 50 miles in one (alone), but it was enough to know it was too slow for me.

Cheers

Flat 4x4

From track day experience (250bhp classic) with Boxsters, the Impreza was 'at least' a match and seemed to close when slingshotting out of bends.

As said above, once into 3 figure speeds I'd drop back or hold station at best.

Yorkie

Toonman, interesting comments there as I am getting PPP fitted in the next few weeks, just need to book it in. From what I have read in the threads after doing a "search" it seems a worthwhile mod as I am sure you will have realised Rumour has it that the new MY03 PPP fits MY01/2 and gives more power (260bhp???). Anyone else heard this ?

Toonman1

Yorkie

I'm sure it's in this month's Evo that Prodrive are capping the power for the 03 WRX PPP at 250bhp, as 01/02 PPP cars have been getting STi7 power (260+) already.

I spoke to Mike Wood before I had mine fitted (Oct 02), and both he and the dealer told me cars were making 260+bhp quite easily (hence the cap on 03 PPPs no doubt). The dealer said it made it a nicer car for UK roads, although no doubt IMG and Prodrive would dispute this!

Depending on where you are, if you fancy checking out an 02 PPP, email me and I'll take you out for a spin sometime. I'm in the very top part of N Yorks:

toonman555@hotmail.com

Cheers

ScoobyJawa

MY99 with full decat - had a blat with a boxster S and he was losing ground on the dual through every gear, this obviously irritated him as when the dual went single and to a 50, although I was quite a few cars lengths in front, I reduced to 50 and can storming up and obviously thought he'd try a share a lift by getting in my boot

Still - they are pretty pokey though - and a very well balanced car when it comes to handling.

GaryC

215bhp with High AWD transmission losses Vs 260bhp with low 2WD transmission losses (and very low for a 2WD - rear engine/rear wheel drive).

The Scoob will have traction benefits, but the Porsche will show it a clean pair of heals once moving.

Even a new STi will struggle, same power but the Porsche is lighter ( - 1295kg/1470kg) will have better PATW (due to lower transmission losses), better aerodynamics, better handling, better grip, more responsive engine (NA Vs Turbo).

MooseRacer

Why is it that in all of these Scoob vs ... threads there's always the 'yeh but as soon as you mod the Scoob, de-cat, PPP, blah blah it'll do this that and the other'?

Surely this approach applies to the car it's being compared to as well

LG John

Ok, lets not turn this into a classic V's fugly debate. What you can't argue with is that they have the same power and that the fugly does weigh more...therefore its just maths as to which is quicker in a straightline You're right though, we are talking is bawhairs of a difference.

My point is this, a boxter S is a far more expensive car than an MY03. Most people will pick a car that is at the limits of what they can afford and then a few other condenders that cost less. For the money of the boxter you could get an MY03 and make a fair few modifications to make it perform better and still have some spare money. BUT, you can't change the badge on the front or the build quality, etc. So, really it comes down to what the poster wants. Performance? Image? Handling?

bigsinky

at the end of the day lads i know which car i would want and it aint the scoob

scooby = really nice car
boxster = real fanny magnet

not that i am into chasing fanny btw

cheers

big sinky

oh in relation to the original post (just in case someone tells me to **** right off) i tried to keep up with one of these thing on my way back from kirkiston race track last sunday. they are a seriously quick motor (maybe i just drive like a pu$$y)

LG John

I have to agree with big sinky but I'd probably have another car for the money. Can't think what of the top of my head but if you can afford a boxter s then you've got some good spending power

ScoobyJawa

39k without any options - you could have plenty of choices

Tuscan, E46 M3 etc etc

7 Foot

Tamora!!

Flat 4x4

or a 'sensible' estate like a 2 year old tuned RS4