alcazar

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Martin2005

Holy 2006 - can't believe you are reguritating this made-up nonsense.

It will be the silly 'John Howard' immigration speech next

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

I'd point the finger at whoever hired them

Chip

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alcazar

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So....Martin chooses to ignore it, saying it's made up...but, as usual, offers no proof either way...(No it isn't, no it doesn't, no it won't), LOL
Chip, on the other hand.........

So that's the two apologists, then...anyone else?

Martin2005

I'm looking forward to your apology and retraction of this nonsense thread...

From 2006!!

There's an email doing the rounds at the moment, which claims to reveal the staggering levels of hypocrisy amongst British politicians:And you scroll down to find out that:I've been sent this twice in the last couple of weeks, and in each case it had come as a result of being repeatedly forwarded, often with comments attached such as 'Makes you think!' or 'Not that surprising I suppose'. It's reaching thousands and thousands of people each week, few of whom realise that it's complete cobblers.
This email doesn't reveal the hypocrisy of British politicians - but it tells us a lot about the naivety of many voters.
It originated in 1999 in the US, on a libertarian website called Capitol Hill Blue - the giveaway is the "little over 500", the size of the US House and Senate combined - and similar variants have previously been found in Canada and India. The claims weren't true in the US and they are certainly not true in the UK. If we were concerned about accuracy, most of the figures would read zero. There may be one or two MPs with bad credit (given how easy it is to get a bad credit rating), and no doubt a handful have been "accused" of things in their time (who hasn't?), but the rest is just fiction. Those who spend their time reading the various British political gossip websites sites (guilty, m'lud) - sites like recess monkey or Guido Fawkes - come across lots of entertaining revelations, but almost never something that would get into a list of what Capitol Hill Blue thought constituted unacceptable behaviour.
Yet people intuitively believe this email when it's sent to them. They positively want their MPs to be crooks and fraudsters, to be only out to enrich themselves. And so when they get an email which tells them how rubbish the political class are, they gobble it up. The same people who wouldn't be taken in for a minute by an email from some bloke in Nigeria offering them $20,000,000 in cash fall instantly for something that offers them 'proof' of how venal their politicians are.
No doubt I'll be told that this cynicism is as a result of the peerages-for-sale scandal (yet another British political 'scandal' in which no one appears to have done anything illegal). Or else it's Iraq (since absolutely everything appears to be linked to Iraq). Or whatever else is the whinge of the day. Yet the belief that politicians are all shysters is clearly a universal one - hence the email's international use.
The irony is that our MPs probably would be a more representative subset of the British population if one or two of them had been done for assault or shoplifting or helped bankrupt a business but I somehow doubt that's the point the originator of the email was trying to make.


Always easy to get the gulible and weak minded to believe anything that they WANT to believe

Turner Tronics

probably not far from truth biggest criminals of them all,all those expense scandals and rest of controversy

Then they've got the cheek to tax everyone earning x amount and give thereselfs a payrise!

You can lead a man to water but you cant make him drink it

Chip

Ding will be long in a minute for you OK?

Apologist, I don't think so

Martin2005

No no no

It's a million miles from the truth - don't get confused or excuse people who are willfully trying to mislead you (and I don't mean politicians!)

This is total made up nonsense - now stop being soft and use you own brain

Chip

84 MP's arrested for drink driving in the past 12 months?

Can you name them Alcazar?

If not I suggest you rethink whether you should be posting this type of garbage.

Martin2005

That was the totally obvious stat that made me think 'this is bollox' 84 MPs is something like 15%, so in a 5 year parliament you'd have 75% of MP done for drink driving, you really have to be soft in the head to get suckered by things like this (let alone post them up!)

30 second research revealed this a bollox, why not check things out rather than make himself look like a tool?

warrenm2

This is actually rubbish. As you can see from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_Westminster_MPs this would have to originated in the period 1974-1983 when the House had 635 members. As the House now has 650 it is already factually incorrect.

And for the avoidance of doubt, I do not agree with Martin2005, its simply his view happens to coincide with mine!

Turner Tronics

of course its bollox but there not squeaky clean

you get your corrupt ones and straight ones just like the boys in blue

martin im pretty sure he knows its highly exaggerated "banter" as you would say

davegtt

oops

hodgy0_2

as has been said

if you apply even the tiniest bit of critical thinking to cr4p like this it simply evaporates into dust

much like the conspiracy theorist – they simply want to believe

and simple belief is enough - no facts required

Martin2005

Now look what you've gone and done! I hope you're pleased with yourself Alcazar

Dingdongler

Alcazar, you need to get a grip.

alcazar

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LOL..........I got EXACTLY the response I wanted.

Now, onto the next.....

Martin2005

Nice attempt at backtracking

A better one would be, 'sorry I fuked up and posted a load of cobblers because I was trying to prove a point'

alcazar

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Posted with your usual load of proof.......LOL

Next!

Chip

Err yeah Ok whatever.

Mouser

Another poster on here uses this response when caught out.

Dingdongler

Does he have female body guards?

Mouser

Yes, (s)he does!

alcazar

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Good grief is this still going?
LOL.....

Martin2005

Oh yes - you're not getting getting off the hook that lightly