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Old 27 January 2014, 06:32 PM
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As Gazza reportedly enters rehab for the 8th time, what are your thoughts?

The number of chances he has had to clean up his act make him look like a (not funny in the slightest) clown IMO.
Old 27 January 2014, 06:37 PM
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Nice summing up. 100% agree.
Old 27 January 2014, 06:49 PM
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Bipolar.
Old 27 January 2014, 06:49 PM
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Old 27 January 2014, 06:56 PM
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He's intent on killing himself, so let him get on with it.

Too much time, effort and money has been spent on a guy who can't help himself.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:03 PM
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All the above..... but what a footballer he was!
Old 27 January 2014, 07:10 PM
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As a Spurs fan, he'll always be a legend in my eyes, even if Spurs weren't the club for him to really fulfil all of that potential. He seemed to take a huge nose dive professionally and personally after that cruciate knee ligament injury in the 1991 FA Cup final, scything down Gary Charles. I think it's utterly tragic what he's doing to himself but how many chances do you give him?! Unfortunately to a generation of fans he'll be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daveyj
As a Spurs fan, he'll always be a legend in my eyes, even if Spurs weren't the club for him to really fulfil all of that potential. He seemed to take a huge nose dive professionally and personally after that cruciate knee ligament injury in the 1991 FA Cup final, scything down Gary Charles. I think it's utterly tragic what he's doing to himself but how many chances do you give him?! Unfortunately to a generation of fans he'll be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
Nice post. The sight of him wandering around aimlessly carrying a placcy bag full of booze is indeed tragic.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:21 PM
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If it's any consolation, Gary Charles is now also a washed up ****-head and got prosecuted for wife beating several years ago.

Bit of a pattern.

Edit - but at least Charles seems to have turned his life around as coach at Lincoln.

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Old 27 January 2014, 07:28 PM
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It's just wrong, but then you don't know what's going on in that loaf of his. You go from being adored by thousands week in week out, become super famous then your career stops. I wouldn't have a clue what that feels like. I know one thing, I wouldn't swap 10% of my privacy/sanity for 10% of his talent with a football if it meant being 10% more like he is now. I'll be gutted when they announce his death but won't be surprised. He won't make 50 that one. The best way to help him is to let him go. Sadly.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:29 PM
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does so little with so much, total waster
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The man's ill and I feel for him.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
The man's ill and I feel for him.
He's no more worthy of sympathy than millions of others battling illness and adversity. Some may argue he's less worthy of sympathy due to being an architect of his own demise.
Old 27 January 2014, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
He's no more worthy of sympathy than millions of others battling illness and adversity.
Agreed. I sympathise with anyone who's been diagnosed as having bipolar.

Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Some may argue he's less worthy of sympathy due to being an architect of his own demise.
What, he gave himself bipolar?
Old 27 January 2014, 08:02 PM
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Biggest mistake he ever made was saying no to Fergie, Fergie would have sorted him out, an abundance of talent but just couldent deal with it.
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Legend of his time as one of the best but my god he is ****ed now, he is beyond help
Old 27 January 2014, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Agreed. I sympathise with anyone who's been diagnosed as having bipolar.



What, he gave himself bipolar?
Whilst not wishing to deride sufferers of mental illness it's symptomatic of those bestowed with fame and fortune to befall such afflictions. Is it the new disease in our midst? Affluenza.
Old 27 January 2014, 08:14 PM
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In fairness, bi-polar is just a new name. It's manic depression and I know someone who's had it since the 80s. They are neither rich nor famous.

Regardless of that side note, his lifestyle isn't helping him fix that.
Old 27 January 2014, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Whilst not wishing to deride sufferers of mental illness it's symptomatic of those bestowed with fame and fortune to befall such afflictions. Is it the new disease in our midst? Affluenza.
Jesus! For a minute I thought I was reading Shakespeare!
Old 27 January 2014, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Whilst not wishing to deride sufferers of mental illness it's symptomatic of those bestowed with fame and fortune to befall such afflictions. Is it the new disease in our midst? Affluenza.
He's been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, Maz. Do you know much about the illness? It might be worth reading up on it and how it affects people. I can assure you it's not the preserve of the (once) rich and famous. It's a killer.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Bipolar...roduction.aspx
Old 27 January 2014, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by daveyj
In fairness, bi-polar is just a new name. It's manic depression and I know someone who's had it since the 80s. They are neither rich nor famous.

Regardless of that side note, his lifestyle isn't helping him fix that.
It's not a side note, it's central to his issues, but it's true he doesn't help himself control the disorder with his lifestyle and that's because he can't. Alcoholism and drug addiction is a disease, too.
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He'd be ideal reality Tv fodder for Celebrity Big Brother or I'm a washed up has-been, get me in there! To boost his public profile.
Old 27 January 2014, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
He'd be ideal reality Tv fodder for Celebrity Big Brother or I'm a washed up has-been, get me in there! To boost his public profile.
I think it would have the opposite affect, it would be that last push over the edge.
Old 27 January 2014, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
He's been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, Maz. Do you know much about the illness? It might be worth reading up on it and how it affects people. I can assure you it's not the preserve of the (once) rich and famous. It's a killer.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Bipolar...roduction.aspx
I am aware of the devastation that mental illness causes and know about bipolar. The height of the high is matched proportionally to the lowness of the low. Some sufferers even go as far as saying the high is so good it's worth being bipolar. Unfortunately this is only asserted when the sufferer is cresting that wave of euphoria only bipolar can provide.
In Gazza's case and perhaps in those of others who are in the limelight (I feel) there is an element of attention seeking. I'm not saying they're being disingenuous with their illness claim, it's just a natural reaction I feel. Someone once said that the only thing rich and famous people value more than money is attention.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I am aware of the devastation that mental illness causes and know about bipolar. The height of the high is matched proportionally to the lowness of the low. Some sufferers even go as far as saying the high is so good it's worth being bipolar. Unfortunately this is only asserted when the sufferer is cresting that wave of euphoria only bipolar can provide.
In Gazza's case and perhaps in those of others who are in the limelight (I feel) there is an element of attention seeking. I'm not saying they're being disingenuous with their illness claim, it's just a natural reaction I feel. Someone once said that the only thing rich and famous people value more than money is attention.
So do you accept that Gazza's bipolar or not? I'm not sure what to make of this post. He doesn't "claim" to be ill, he's been diagnosed by psychiatric professionals as meeting the criteria. Are you suggesting he duped them in to the diagnosis so that he could receive "attention"?
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Stick him on the lithium
Old 27 January 2014, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Stick him on the lithium
That's proven to be a very good one. Most bipolar people I know respond well to it. But if you mix it with alcohol, it could be disastrous.
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