Adverts about obesity?
14 January 2014, 12:28 PM
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Adverts about obesity?
I've seen the latest one with the plasticscene men, (morphs) tipping glasses of out and getting sugar-cubes.
But the government are advising folk to drink SUGAR-FREE drinks, many of which contain Aspartame, which, afaik, is banned in the USA as a carcinogen?
So what's better, being fat, or getting cancer?
And what USE are adverts like that when, in the SAME ad break, the next advert on was for Kinder surprise, avidly telling hard working mums that, when their kids get home from school, the BEST thing to give them is a Kinder cereal bar.....
But the government are advising folk to drink SUGAR-FREE drinks, many of which contain Aspartame, which, afaik, is banned in the USA as a carcinogen?
So what's better, being fat, or getting cancer?
And what USE are adverts like that when, in the SAME ad break, the next advert on was for Kinder surprise, avidly telling hard working mums that, when their kids get home from school, the BEST thing to give them is a Kinder cereal bar.....
14 January 2014, 12:54 PM
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Sugar free stuff is all well and good but when I were a lad.....
Fizzy pop was an occasional treat - i.e. glass of lemonade and a bag of crisps on a Saturday evening, certainly not drank every day of every week.
We were always outdoors when the weather allowed and kicking a football around, building dens, or off on our bikes somewhere another. Computer games were fairly sh*t and reserved for rainy days.
I think we need to get back to the everything in moderation way of thinking, have a can of full fat coke once in a while, eat the odd cream cake, Mars bar, pie, etc. but as a treat not regularly. Eat simple food in the meantime, nothing wrong with meat and veg for dinner.
Fizzy pop was an occasional treat - i.e. glass of lemonade and a bag of crisps on a Saturday evening, certainly not drank every day of every week.
We were always outdoors when the weather allowed and kicking a football around, building dens, or off on our bikes somewhere another. Computer games were fairly sh*t and reserved for rainy days.
I think we need to get back to the everything in moderation way of thinking, have a can of full fat coke once in a while, eat the odd cream cake, Mars bar, pie, etc. but as a treat not regularly. Eat simple food in the meantime, nothing wrong with meat and veg for dinner.
14 January 2014, 01:23 PM
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What is wrong with drinking water and eating solid fruit? Maybe a slice of lemon in water?
The conspiracies around aspartame are mainly just that, I have no concerns with it in sensible quantities, based on my appraisal of the evidence and weeding through the hysteria.
The conspiracies around aspartame are mainly just that, I have no concerns with it in sensible quantities, based on my appraisal of the evidence and weeding through the hysteria.
14 January 2014, 01:33 PM
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I think the main scare in the US is with Saccharin - there is cancer warnings on items containing it (at least there was when I was last over there)
AFAIK Apspartame is NOT banned in the US, well not on a federal level at least....afterall the mainstay product of US fizzy drinks; Diet Coke contains it - always has (formerly branded as Nutrasweet).
Anyhoo, I don't touch the stuff; I've cut down my sugar intake regardless and its amazing how much your tatsebuds adapt - took a while (over 12months), but now anything sugarytastes far too sweet. For example I find typical lemonade undrinkable, it tastes like pure sugar mixed into fizzy water with a hint of lemon.
So yeah, the answer is just to cut out the sugar, not substitute it. Substituting for sweetners means you will still have that sweet tooth.
AFAIK Apspartame is NOT banned in the US, well not on a federal level at least....afterall the mainstay product of US fizzy drinks; Diet Coke contains it - always has (formerly branded as Nutrasweet).
Anyhoo, I don't touch the stuff; I've cut down my sugar intake regardless and its amazing how much your tatsebuds adapt - took a while (over 12months), but now anything sugarytastes far too sweet. For example I find typical lemonade undrinkable, it tastes like pure sugar mixed into fizzy water with a hint of lemon.
So yeah, the answer is just to cut out the sugar, not substitute it. Substituting for sweetners means you will still have that sweet tooth.
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14 January 2014, 02:27 PM
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What is wrong with drinking water and eating solid fruit? Maybe a slice of lemon in water?
The conspiracies around aspartame are mainly just that, I have no concerns with it in sensible quantities, based on my appraisal of the evidence and weeding through the hysteria.
The conspiracies around aspartame are mainly just that, I have no concerns with it in sensible quantities, based on my appraisal of the evidence and weeding through the hysteria.
14 January 2014, 02:50 PM
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14 January 2014, 04:39 PM
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as a familly we eat pretty well, to the extent that none of my 5 children have ever eaten a Macdonalds or indeed food out of a bucket!! and very very rarely eat processed (ready meals) food
Very occasionally we have sliced bread (hovis etc) in the house - and every time i eat it, it just tastes of sugar - incredible the amount they must put in the bread
the amount of fruit we go through is simply staggering
Very occasionally we have sliced bread (hovis etc) in the house - and every time i eat it, it just tastes of sugar - incredible the amount they must put in the bread
the amount of fruit we go through is simply staggering
14 January 2014, 04:45 PM
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That amazing permanently full fruit bowl you work hard for has paid dividends.
I am not taking the ****, it is a genuinely good concept, as long as it gets emptied.
I am not taking the ****, it is a genuinely good concept, as long as it gets emptied.
14 January 2014, 04:56 PM
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simple rule of thumb is not to eat anything your great grandmother would not recognise as food
so that's cheesy strings out of the door then
and yes, our weekly food bill is huge
so that's cheesy strings out of the door then
and yes, our weekly food bill is huge
14 January 2014, 05:13 PM
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Sweeteners like aspartame are not dangerous, it's all mostly bull****.
If someone is gonna drink coke, it's better to have the diet coke because when it comes down to it, less calories in means less that will turn to fat if you don't burn them off.
I will only drink diet/light/zero drinks if I'm having one and won't drink any fruit juice either.
Could be argued that fruit juice is a better choice because at least you might get some fibre and vitamin C out of it, but, fruit=sweet=sugar. Yes it's fructose, but it's still got calories in and too many=fat.
Of course, water would be a better choice, but most people won't drink it.
If someone is gonna drink coke, it's better to have the diet coke because when it comes down to it, less calories in means less that will turn to fat if you don't burn them off.
I will only drink diet/light/zero drinks if I'm having one and won't drink any fruit juice either.
Could be argued that fruit juice is a better choice because at least you might get some fibre and vitamin C out of it, but, fruit=sweet=sugar. Yes it's fructose, but it's still got calories in and too many=fat.
Of course, water would be a better choice, but most people won't drink it.
14 January 2014, 08:20 PM
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I thought the scaremongering about additives was shown as a bit OTT.
i.e. you would have to eat bucketfuls of the stuff every day for 10 years for there to be a risk.
i.e. you would have to eat bucketfuls of the stuff every day for 10 years for there to be a risk.
14 January 2014, 09:53 PM
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It's all just the new thing to change us until someone realises they were wrong and we shouldn't do it after all.
Watched a programme about when "fat free" and "low fat" was the in thing , so they filled everything with suger instead (still could claim low fat). Then they realised too much sugar is bad , so "sugar free" is the in thing. Till they realise the thing they replace sugar with is bad for us and they will think of something else.
Watched a programme about when "fat free" and "low fat" was the in thing , so they filled everything with suger instead (still could claim low fat). Then they realised too much sugar is bad , so "sugar free" is the in thing. Till they realise the thing they replace sugar with is bad for us and they will think of something else.
14 January 2014, 11:42 PM
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True, I used to guzzle throuigh 5 tins of coke a day. Over a year that adds up to a hell of alot. Moreso if its artificial sweeteners as there is a unknown long-term factor (i.e 50+years), although thats not an issue for me as I hate the taste of them.
Diet coke tastes foul, in general I find sweetners taste like having a 9volt battery on my tongue...I'd rather drink weak (and I mean very weak) cordial.
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15 January 2014, 12:42 AM
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http://www.food.gov.uk/policy-advice.../#.UtXX8NJdWSo
In the case of aspartame, an adult would have to consume 14 cans of a sugar-free drink every day before reaching the ADI, assuming the sweetener was used in the drink at the maximum permitted level. In practice most drinks use aspartame in combination with other sweeteners so that the level is considerably lower.
So you're not even close.See what I mean about rumour & mis-information.
That's the 'safe' limit so getting close to a 'dangerous' amount would be considerably more.
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15 January 2014, 01:32 PM
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LOL you'd think they'd be like that, and my mates used to think that until they found out I don't have a single filling, and a full set of teeth bar the wisdom teeth.I do have acid erosion though, but the fruit is as bad for that as the drinks (my dentist blames the erosion on my front teeth on the apples I regularly eat).
Used a Braun 3D tooth brush since my teens (now Oral B 3D). So I can only say its down to that, as I haven't done much else to care for them bar the hygenist visits (I only bother flossing when something is stuck between them). Not genetic either as my parent's teeth are aweful.
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15 January 2014, 01:50 PM
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Interestingly there's more sugar per-slice in wholemeal and best-of-both than their soft white loaves!
15 January 2014, 01:51 PM
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I've seen the latest one with the plasticscene men, (morphs) tipping glasses of out and getting sugar-cubes.
But the government are advising folk to drink SUGAR-FREE drinks, many of which contain Aspartame, which, afaik, is banned in the USA as a carcinogen?
So what's better, being fat, or getting cancer?
And what USE are adverts like that when, in the SAME ad break, the next advert on was for Kinder surprise, avidly telling hard working mums that, when their kids get home from school, the BEST thing to give them is a Kinder cereal bar.....
But the government are advising folk to drink SUGAR-FREE drinks, many of which contain Aspartame, which, afaik, is banned in the USA as a carcinogen?
So what's better, being fat, or getting cancer?
And what USE are adverts like that when, in the SAME ad break, the next advert on was for Kinder surprise, avidly telling hard working mums that, when their kids get home from school, the BEST thing to give them is a Kinder cereal bar.....
You're right - my apologies. It's rank.
15 January 2014, 02:53 PM
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LOL you'd think they'd be like that, and my mates used to think that until they found out I don't have a single filling, and a full set of teeth bar the wisdom teeth.I do have acid erosion though, but the fruit is as bad for that as the drinks (my dentist blames the erosion on my front teeth on the apples I regularly eat)....
No fillings.
All teeth present except part of a premolar that broke up (presumably) because of too frequent fizzy drinks. Luckily it's out of sight lol
Last edited by joz8968; 15 January 2014 at 02:55 PM.