number plate transfers in the 60s / 70s
12 December 2013, 09:43 AM
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As far as I'm aware it has never been possible to put a newer plate onto an older vehicle. Seems to me like something dodgy has gone on in the past and the seller may or may not know something about it.
12 December 2013, 09:58 AM
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I think he could be right.
Up until 1963 plates were not age related and it wasn't until 1965 that plates were issued centrally by the DVLC. Before then it was common to re-register vehciles if they were sold to a different part of the country (a bit like state plates in the US) and to sometimes change their plates because of this.
It wasn't until the system was centralised in 1965 that the rule to stop a car being made to look newer than it is by changing to a more recent plate was brought in.
Up until 1963 plates were not age related and it wasn't until 1965 that plates were issued centrally by the DVLC. Before then it was common to re-register vehciles if they were sold to a different part of the country (a bit like state plates in the US) and to sometimes change their plates because of this.
It wasn't until the system was centralised in 1965 that the rule to stop a car being made to look newer than it is by changing to a more recent plate was brought in.
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12 December 2013, 08:24 PM
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F1fan's suggestion is plausible.
There is another quirk which is that some vehicles like vans/recovery trucks used by the motor trade were never registered and solely used on trade plates.
Our family business still has its trade plates from the 1960's...of which were fitted to many a recovery truck. Mainly a Ford D series truck - which was never registered. That was later replaced with a Ford A - series which had its asthmatic 4pot engine replaced with a Rover P6 V8 engine
But alas the law was changed forcing them to have their own registration plates - obviously when it was registered the date was for the current year, not the date of first use.
There is another quirk which is that some vehicles like vans/recovery trucks used by the motor trade were never registered and solely used on trade plates.
Our family business still has its trade plates from the 1960's...of which were fitted to many a recovery truck. Mainly a Ford D series truck - which was never registered. That was later replaced with a Ford A - series which had its asthmatic 4pot engine replaced with a Rover P6 V8 engine
But alas the law was changed forcing them to have their own registration plates - obviously when it was registered the date was for the current year, not the date of first use.
Last edited by ALi-B; 12 December 2013 at 08:28 PM.
12 December 2013, 08:32 PM
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Also military and imports can suffer this: My Land Rover originally was like this....It was on a R-suffix as it was demobbed and registered in 1976. But it was actually built in 1969
I managed to get the build date from the chassis number and got it re-registered in 2001 where the DVLA gave me a G suffix plate that reflected its true age (1969). It was fairly painless to do once the forms were filled in correctly....I also had it re-classed as a historic vehicle, so I didn't have to pay any road tax
Remember: Date of first registration is NOT date of first use, or the build date.
I managed to get the build date from the chassis number and got it re-registered in 2001 where the DVLA gave me a G suffix plate that reflected its true age (1969). It was fairly painless to do once the forms were filled in correctly....I also had it re-classed as a historic vehicle, so I didn't have to pay any road tax
Remember: Date of first registration is NOT date of first use, or the build date.
Last edited by ALi-B; 12 December 2013 at 08:35 PM.
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