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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Looking to get rid of this excess weight I've put on since I stopped smoking so I've started hitting the treadmill every second day doing around 2.5 K each visit. Problem is each visit it's getting harder to do it as I do t think I'm giving my body enough recovery time.

Should I lower my limit a bit and maybe leave it to twice a week, what's the best way to get into it running and shake a bit of weight?

PS I'm not into weights and muscles they do nothing for me so I'm not I intrested on info relating to that.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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You're overtraining, especially if you've just started running. I would also base it on time on the treadmill rather than distance to begin with, well, that's how I've done it for cardio and it worked for me. Important to remember all the effort amounts to nothing if you don't have a proper diet.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Get a bike you fat ****



I like my comforts, It's a bit cold for them things just now, I must be beginning to get a wee bit soft in my old age lol

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How old are you, and what sort of weight? Why do you say its getting harder?
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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You're overtraining, especially if you've just started running. I would also base it on time on the treadmill rather than distance to begin with, well, that's how I've done it for cardio and it worked for me. Important to remember all the effort amounts to nothing if you don't have a proper diet.
Yea I've just started, so pretty much clueless as to the correct way to do it.
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Try doing alternative 2.5k and say 1.6k then start to build up over time
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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How old are you, and what sort of weight? Why do you say its getting harder?
42, probably about 14 or 14 1/2 stone. First time I did the treadmill I did 2.5K without any problem which I was happy enough with considering I haven't ran since school, since then it gets harder each visit to do the 2.5k.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Try doing alternative 2.5k and say 1.6k then start to build up over time
Should I keep going every second day or maybe every third or fourth?
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see how you feel,if you feel tired leave it an extra day or two then go again you soon learn how your body`s coping with the workouts

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2.5k.!

Are you taking the ****
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Ah, somehow the computer's put a decimal point where it shouldn't be.

Sorry
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Download the 'Couch 2 5k' program, you'll mix walking with running, building up gradually to reach 5k at the end of nine weeks.
Then you can start the 5k 2 10k one...
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Cheers Lydia will download that and have a look.
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The best time I`ve done 3.2k is 10:15 and 20k at 1h:30min and am 45 years old

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If it's getting harder, maybe you should see the doc.!
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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If it's getting harder, maybe you should see the doc.!
Really? I thought being unfit and pushing things a bit without much of a recovery time between sessions might have a lot to do with it. Where's our resident GP when we need him!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Like it`s already been said, medical checkup first

I´m a skyrunner (running up the floors of Skyscrapers with fire fighter Equipment)

You will always hear of different ways, but it is important if you want to loose weight to Keep your puls down to burn the fat first-

Do a cardio check first mate

It will take time so don`t over do it

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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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I had a medical recently for working offshore and was deemed fit, so doubt there's anything wrong with my health.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Drop Mattee a PM RA as he had an overtraining issue last year so did a lot of reading up on it. Pretty sure it was Mattee. He should be able to give you some good pointers.
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Maybe swimming round the rig on quiet days would be less work on the joints
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Cheers Lydia will download that and have a look.
If you're doing 2.5k now you'll probably find the first three/ four weeks way too easy but stick with it, by week five you'll be running for twenty minutes without stopping and everything after that is fine, it becomes a state of mind.
If you find one particular week is too tough there's nothing wrong with repeating the previous week

The only downside I found is that running on a treadmill is very different to running outside, you don't have to dodge dog poo/ pedestrians/ bikes, there's never a headwind or ice on the pavement, white van man doesn't beep at you and shout rude things...so when you do come to run outside it's a shock to the system
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I am quite a keen runner (and triathlete) and have been for a number of years.

If you are trying to ditch weight, I would ditch the treadmill and get out. The problem with treadmills is that you are not actually moving your body.

If you go out for a run, you are carrying your entire body weight forward. If you go on a treadmill, you are merely moving your legs backwards and forwards. Treadmills are good if you are trying to train certain muscles that aren't used as much when outdoor running, or as a bit of a treat when conditions outside are horrid (or you can't be arsed every now and again lol). Treadmills will lure you into thinking your getting to a good level of Cardiovascular fitness as they're very easy to 'get good at' if you like. You can spend months on a treadmill and (even though your CV will improve) you'll think your fit as a fiddle.......until you decide to do an outdoor run and die about 100m down the road......because there are so many more factors to running outdoors.

I would highly advise getting a gait analysis (going into a running shop and getting looked at so they can advise you on the best type of running shoe.......having the wrong type can do you some serious muscle / tendon damage).
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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Been running for well over 10 years (yes, I'm pretty tired now!)

1. Get your gait analysis done - run in the shop, have them advise on shoes that will suit your running style. This will help no end as the shoes will complement your style and you won't be fighting yourself. Do this every time you buy shoes as your gait changes over the years.

2. Don't over-train. Your body needs time to recover, let the legs rest when they need to. Start slow, build up - either increase distance or increase speed, no more than 10% at a time and make sure if you are on a treadmill to have a slope as the treadmill has a normal bounce that makes the run slightly easier (as per Peedee's post).

3. Mix it up - I've added swimming to the mix and built up to 80-100 lengths 2-3 times a week. Surprisingly this has helped my running, which now seems a lot easier (probably due to the core getting stronger) Whatever works for you!

4. The Dogs B******s might be right - after 40, some guys turn into fat *******s so you may need to face yourself in the mirror and accept it!

5. Best of luck!
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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I have lost 2stone on a running machine! My partner has gone from size 14-8!! I jog, not run! I had hip replacements and running is just uncomfy! Dieting helps loads! Break meals up! Instead of 3 big meals do 5 small portioned meals!
White bread changed to brown! Cut out the crisps and chocolates! Obviously treat ya self now n again! Drink plenty of water and this helps metabolism kick in to help burn fat!

Just started running! So break it up to twice a week for a week or 2, then 3 times a week! If you do it by distance your soon been running 2.5k quick so, say you run for 45mins if you can still go, go bit longer, try find your limit and do that till you build yourself up!
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I guess maybe running on rig could well be bit limited
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How do manage your 100 lengths 3x a week SJ?

I do full mile once a week, but my goodness its kind tedious - only relief is bringing the time down ( less than 30 now)
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I guess maybe running on rig could well be bit limited
Yea running on a rig would be quite challenging,'plus it would get me the sack as we're not allowed to run out here.
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How do manage your 100 lengths 3x a week SJ?

I do full mile once a week, but my goodness its kind tedious - only relief is bringing the time down ( less than 30 now)
1length at a time!

It's only a 25m pool, takes me about 1h05m to 1h10m depending on lane traffic. Not really any different time wise from a 12k run or 25-30k bike ride. I usually do my swims early morning - one advantage of working an EST day at the moment I guess! I don't find it that boring, just use the time to keep count and get all the jobs for the day in order in my head.

Top time for a mile! Well done
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Why do people jog?
I've been looking at them for thirty years now and every single one of them looks miserable. Try it yourself - see if you can ever see a smiling jogger.

My advice would be -
Get yourself a cardiac monitor.
Go down the gym and use a cross trainer a few times a week keeping pulse at 130 bpm for 40 min or so. This way you won't be crippled with Arthritis by the time you are 50. Trance music is helpful here.
Do some weights to get definition as opposed to bulk (and break up the monotony of the session).
Count your calories and run a 1000 Calorie per day deficit, or maybe try the 2:5 diet.
You should be able to drop two pounds a week this way.
Then when you are down to your chosen weight, you can try jogging around with your lighter and fitter body.
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