paulr

Another out of touch MP. Has he not seen the price of wool nowadays.!!!

alcazar

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I've just put my hoody on, can't afford to light my woodburner until about 8pm.

paulr

Does your wood burner burn badgers?

pimmo2000

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I'd expect so if they go too close ..

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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only if she sits too close without her legs crossed

stevebt

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I had a sleeping bag that I used when I was cold if I was watching the tv but I had to stop using it as I would just fall asleep as soon as I got comfortable

hodgy0_2

if people have to worry about a basic human need as keeping warm

then to me they are poor

if people have to worry about a basic human need as keeping warm

then to me they are pretty fvcked aswell

Hammer man

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I just feel sorry for the beavers.....I mean badgers.

Dingdongler

If people need to repeat a sentence twice

then to me they are poor

If people need to repeat a sentence twice

then to me they are pretty fvcked aswell

hodgy0_2

things need to be repeated for thick cvnts like you ding, hth

Dingdongler

No it doesn't

No it doesn't

hodgy0_2

well to be really honest I don't give a fvck whether it does or not

and that needs saying just the once

legb4rsk

It can't be that expensive as MP's still pull it over our eyes on a regular basis.

tony de wonderful

It's a luxury now. The noble battlers against 'entitlements' have seen to that.

dpb

Who can afford real wool nowadays

alcazar

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Strange idea, that keeping warm is a basic human right.

How warm, though?

I was brought up until age eleven in a semi in Humberston, on North Sea Lane, just down from Beacholme Camp.

We had no central-heating, just a fire in the dining, and one in the living room. The living room was only used for special occasions.
All life went on in the dining room, that's where the TV was when it arrived, (12" tube, and it would only receive BBC).

The bedrooms were iceboxes...there were fireplaces, but we couldn't afford them lit. Getting up for school on cold mornings was a race to see how fast you could get dressed.

So yes, I'm willing to put on more clothes.

Unfortunately, however, the idea that we can save money on our energy bills is false.

Privatised companies HAVE to make a profit.
If we use less, they will just bang the price up. We've already seen it.

hodgy0_2

off course you're right

and you could obviously argue on the basis that we/humans have no basic human rights at all

that we actually have rights to nothing and every "right" we get, we must personally attain

CrisPDuk

Looking at the estates round here, it would appear that 50" televisions, Sky boxes and XBoxes are basic human rights too

alcazar

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Don't have any of those. Worked all my life, Mrs still does.

Turbohot

Mr. ex-Turbohot used to tell me to do the same. Very good advice, I always thought.

However, I enhanced this mechanism in my own home once I could afford one. I do put my jumper on, of course I do! But in addition, I have my heating on as well. Works better for me.

Jimbob

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What gets me is how many of these "hard up people" that use the local food banks, and can't afford heating, have sky tv, smoke 80 a day, get pissed every day, and have a drug habit.

Sorry but to those, freeze you bugger freeze!!

hodgy0_2

so any basic human rights?

right to work?

right to healthcare?

right to Education?

right to equality before the law

right to shelter and warmth

or actually a right to nothing -- whats your view?

quite plausible to argue for a "right" to absolutely nothing

alcazar

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None of the above...all are privileges and should be earned in some way.

We, as a country, have too much of the "it's my right..."

People have too many rights, and too few responsibilities.

SJ_Skyline

Seems like pretty savvy advice, if I'm cold I will usually put on a jumper or fleece.

tony de wonderful

Freedom is freedom to freeze.

Dingdongler

Freedom is the freedom to freeze freely.

**** me, the make believe Marxist batty twins are in full flow these days

hodgy0_2

that's cool,

all my children have those privileges

after all, rights are intrinsic and privileges are bestowed

cookstar

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Maybe he could tell my missus, boils my pi$$ when I come home from work and she's sitting there in a t shirt with the heating on full blast.

We've one of those wireless programmer/stat things, I might set it and lock it in my desk drawer, that'll learn her.

RA Dunk

If she looks and dresses like her in your avatar I don't know what you're grumbling at?

GlesgaKiss

Of course. They think someone else should provide for them.