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Old 01 October 2013, 08:48 AM
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How much do I need spend, mizuno wave looks okay, but 100 quid!?!
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How long is a piece of string? IMHO...

If you are buying running shoes for the first time, find a good local running shop that will watch you run on a treadmill and recommend what sort of shoe should be best for you. They should let you try a few different makes / models on to help make a decision. Buy the best shoes from them (ie don't abuse their service by doing the above but then buying online).

The next time you need new shoes and assuming you are happy with the ones you got last time, then find the cheapest price for them online.

When I swapped to my current shoe (Nike Structure Triax) a good few years back, I paid something like £80 to £90 for them from my local shop. Since then I've got a few pairs online for £40 to £50 from places like SportsShoes.com
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i ran a couple of marathons on Asics circa £75.00 a couple of years ago now

my current running shoe (done one marathon and a few halfs) is a Mizuno

simply chose that shoe during a fitting session at the local running shop (i tried 3 or 4)

it just felt the best - for me

was around £80 if i remember

go to a proper running shop, work with the usually very knowledgable shop staff to get the best shoe for you (this may mean trying 3,4,5 shoes on) - and buy it whether it is the cheapest or the most expensive

simple (to avoid fvcked feet, ankles knees and hips)
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I don't think the local, intersport, place has a treadmill. So I guess I'll be going into Eastbourne or Brighton

Thanks

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Originally Posted by ChrisB
If you are buying running shoes for the first time, find a good local running shop that will watch you run on a treadmill and recommend what sort of shoe should be best for you.
This. I made the mistake of not doing it to begin with and ended up injuring myself. Went to my local independent running shop and had them monitor my running style on a treadmill. I overpronate on one foot and their recommendation has transformed my comfort when running now. Nike Lunar Eclipse FWIW.
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There's a Sweatshop in Brighton - possibly a good place to start
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Road or trail?

I use Asics Kayanos for road (around your budget) and Salomon Fellcross for trail (slightly above budget) and both are superb for me - they must fit and be the right type though or they'll be hateful,
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Ones I had, Nike air, iv decided to chuck. The left one has always been slightly tight lengthwise, the other one fine.....
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Originally Posted by ChrisB
How long is a piece of string? IMHO...

If you are buying running shoes for the first time, find a good local running shop that will watch you run on a treadmill and recommend what sort of shoe should be best for you. They should let you try a few different makes / models on to help make a decision. Buy the best shoes from them (ie don't abuse their service by doing the above but then buying online).
Totally agree

My gait changed after surgery from overpronantion to neutral so it's worth having your gait analysis each time you buy running shoes.

I bought a set of Brooks Ghost a couple of months back, neutral shoe which is great for the track but has sufficient tread for a medium trail.

If you're thinking about doing something like a tough mudder then keep your old shoes as they will get totally trashed.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Road or trail?

I use Asics Kayanos for road (around your budget) and Salomon Fellcross for trail (slightly above budget) and both are superb for me - they must fit and be the right type though or they'll be hateful,
I swear by Salomon for trail running - XA Pro 3D
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SJ; that's what the missus uses. Great all rounders it I find them a bit bulky.
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Just how I like them Matt with a little more support. I need the support as I'm built for comfort rather than speed!
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I swear by Salomon for trail running - XA Pro 3D
Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Just how I like them Matt with a little more support. I need the support as I'm built for comfort rather than speed!
Until my sodding calf finally heals up, I'm most definitely not built for running. Did a 3.5 miler last week, it seized up. Arggghhhh!!
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i was "last runner" marshall in our village 10k event (over 500 runners)


would you adam and fvcking eve it, she only went round in 1hr:35mins - and believe it or not she "ran" all the way (well if you call it running i simply did not know someone could travel so slowly in a run)
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Until my sodding calf finally heals up, I'm most definitely not built for running. Did a 3.5 miler last week, it seized up. Arggghhhh!!
Sorry to hear it mate. How is it at the mo?

Thanks for the triathlon advice the other day, I completed it. Took me 2:35 which isn't too bad for my first one. DEFINATELY going to get into it, I loved it!



Back to the running trainers issue for the OP!......

Pretty much what everyone has said already. You need to go to a proper running shop and have your running analysed. It's called a 'Gate Analysis'. They will place you onto a treadmill and increase the speed until your running at a steady pace. The video camera will film your feet from behind. They will then show you the video in slow motion so you can see how your foot lands and thus decide which trainers are best for you.

It's always best to try on a few different sets of trainers too as most people find different makes more / less comfortable than others.....everyone is different. Also, and I think this is very important.......

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T KNOW THE PRICE OF THE DIFFERENT TRAINERS YOU TRY ON.

Why? Because price usually dictates which pair you buy, even if you find that pair the most uncomfortable. If you don't know the price whilst trying them on, you won't be swayed by choosing the cheapest (and possibly not the comfiest) pair of trainers.

Secondly, and very importantly, YOUR GATE CAN CHANGE OVER TIME. You cannot buy the same pair of trainers over and over again because the cushioning provided by your current pair will (hopefully) provide the support you need, thus changing your gate over time. Every time you buy a new pair of running trainers, get a gate analysis.
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Nice one Peedee!!
My leg seemed fairly minor but six weeks later, it's still annoying. Fine for cycling and swimming but running kills it. I did run a bit hard (7min miles over 3.5miles, hilly trail) but I was shocked at how much it hurt afterwards and I was limping for a week.

It's not serious but it's stuffed up my race plans for the Autumn. Darn.

Still, the surf has been great so not all bad ;-)

Just in case anyone googles it, it's spelt "gait" analysis ;-)

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Thanks info.

I'd be aiming for 2:45, next year sometime
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STOP it has been scientifcally proven that all of these special running shoes make no difference to how you run / welfare!

All you need is what you find yourself comfortable in.

I purchased a pair of off the shelf nike £60 and they were lovly and comfortable. I also purchased a pare of sketchers go pro things £80 for my first marathon.

I couldnt get on with the sketchers as they were very hard. I did most of the training in the sketchers but decided against all advice to run in my new nike and loved it.

Just buy what you feel comfortable in. Dont waste your money on names....
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Got new balance minimus and just had the salomon speedcross 3 .Hopefully if I'm over this flu by the weekend I'll get to try out...
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
STOP it has been scientifcally proven that all of these special running shoes make no difference to how you run / welfare!

All you need is what you find yourself comfortable in.

I purchased a pair of off the shelf nike £60 and they were lovly and comfortable. I also purchased a pare of sketchers go pro things £80 for my first marathon.

I couldnt get on with the sketchers as they were very hard. I did most of the training in the sketchers but decided against all advice to run in my new nike and loved it.

Just buy what you feel comfortable in. Dont waste your money on names....
Try running some of the trails around here in "any old shoes" and see what happens...
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
STOP it has been scientifcally proven that all of these special running shoes make no difference to how you run / welfare!

All you need is what you find yourself comfortable in.

I purchased a pair of off the shelf nike £60 and they were lovly and comfortable. I also purchased a pare of sketchers go pro things £80 for my first marathon.

I couldnt get on with the sketchers as they were very hard. I did most of the training in the sketchers but decided against all advice to run in my new nike and loved it.

Just buy what you feel comfortable in. Dont waste your money on names....
No offence ole boy

But was this the marathon you completed using a fast walk.
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I don't do much sport, but when I do I hate having to wear trainers because my feet always hurt afterwards. Coincidentally I just last night ordered my first half decent pair of trainers but after reading these comments I think I should have paid even more to go to a specialist shoe/running shop...

The ***** of my feet usually always hurt because I have very high arches so I guess a lot of my weight is on the ball of my foot and not spread evenly... I bought some off-the-shelf Nike training shoes for £40 last week (they felt comfortable when I tried them on) but after playing squash the ***** of my feet hurt. Tempted to just chuck them out to be honest but I'm looking forward to getting a new pair that I've ordered online.
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You're an over-pronator too. Some shoes have built up arches (like my Kayanos) for flat feet, some are the opposite. I find I don't need anything in trail shoes because the terrain is so uneven.

When my knee got bad (due to a particularly bad right foot) I wore shoe inserts which helped a lot but it seems to have sorted itself out now.

Wear the wrong shoe and unless you're gait in 100% "perfect" you can damage your feet, knees and hips.
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Is there anything you could possibly suggest that would be suitable for me Mattee? I literally have no idea about trainers and feet. Any help would be much appreciated.

Just had a quick google and it says that if you're an over-pronator then you will usually have quite flat feet with small arches.... I've just wet my feet and stood on some paper and it looks like I appear to have a normal arch looking at the comparison images of foot pronation.

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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Is there anything you could possibly suggest that would be suitable for me Mattee? I literally have no idea about trainers and feet. Any help would be much appreciated.

Just had a quick google and it says that if you're an over-pronator then you will usually have quite flat feet with small arches.... I've just wet my feet and stood on some paper and it looks like I appear to have a normal arch looking at the comparison images of foot pronation.
Sorry, I'm getting my pronations mixed up!

I have quite flat feet (small arches) particularly on the right foot which led to a bad knee because the pressure on it was uneven - this then led to a bad hip too! Physio and inserts helped a lot.

I think you're the opposite - usually your footprint should be rather narrow, as not much of your foot will touch the ground. There's a great explanation here and it talks of the same symptoms you have in "over-pronation"

http://www.runnersworld.com/running-...ed?page=single

Definitely best to find a good running shop but there are shoes that can help - same website:

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/reviews/shoes/1.html
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I had no idea you could go to a local running shop and get them to analyse your gait on a treadmill.

I have no intention of (and haven't the ability) to run marathons but do like to run a couple of miles to break up my weekly exercise regime. I only took up running a few years back.

What exactly do you mean by a 'local running shop'? I don't think I've ever come across one.
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Cheers Mattee, I'd defiantly consider going to a proper sports shop now, not one of the sh1te chain stores such as JJB or SportsDirect.

I know there's a small specialist sports shop in the town of Gloucester as my Dad bought a treadmill on the whim and they helped him get proper trainers for his feet so will probably be worth me taking a look in there.
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
I had no idea you could go to a local running shop and get them to analyse your gait on a treadmill.

I have no intention of (and haven't the ability) to run marathons but do like to run a couple of miles to break up my weekly exercise regime. I only took up running a few years back.

What exactly do you mean by a 'local running shop'? I don't think I've ever come across one.
Haha exactly why you've never heard of one,its usually one of these independent shops tucked away along a side street in town with a name you never heard of(not a jjb etc)and probably passed it dozens of times and not even noticed..
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jeez, buying running shoes from JJB is like driving your scooby on 95Ron - idiotic and sometimes fatal
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Here are a some:

http://www.runnersneed.com/
http://www.upandrunning.co.uk/
http://www.runnersworld.ltd.uk/


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