Essexdon

Seeing as this individual has just been released again now long do we think it will be before he is behind bars again, I would guess for something worse than downloading child ****.

I've only been a dad for the first time 4 months ago and can only now apprichate the depth of feeling towards the Bulger killers, they have the whole weight of the law to back and protect them, the situation stinks imho.

f1_fan

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You have to wonder what the hell is going on with this! He was released before and within no time was behind bars again for possessing child ****..... what possible reason can there be to release him? None that I can see.

Which idiot or idiots decided this was a good idea and why doesn't that spineless b1tch Theresa May, our so called Home Secretary, intervene?

A truly stupid move by all concerned!!

jods

It's his human right to be released. We can't be prejudiced against him if he has an approach to life that isn't the same as the majority of the planet because that would be terribly awfully narrow minded of us.

chocolate_o_brian

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Sad, but strangely accurate


He is one of the strongest candidates for the death sentence (if it were in existence).

jods

I've decided to get active in politics. I think I will have to go independent as the mainstream parties are too concerned about feathering their own nests.

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You can't con an honest person.

Essexdon

Of course its his right and do the actions of a child reflect the man? Going by the child **** issues you would say yes and that he is still a danger to children.

So much for a worldwide protection net around him, you only have to google him to find photos as an adult :-O

chocolate_o_brian

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Without wanting to sound all left wing or tree huggish, I kinda agree, Jeff.

What went on in a 10 year olds mind to carry out something so disturbing, so abhorrent? I've heard and read information on some people just having an 'evil' gene. Not insane, no previous exposure to abuse etc., just an evil gene.

^Qwerty^

Hopefully when somebody gets hold of him, they'll shove a load of D size batteries up his ****, crush his bollocks and then twist his dick round and round so that it's left hanging off. Maybe pour paint in his eyes as well just for good measure.

chocolate_o_brian

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I'd rather not be reminded of what that poor toddler went through

I remember reading some horrific info. in 93 as a 9 year old and it gave me nightmares.

Skoobie Dhu

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Human rights only apply to people who respect the human rights of others, these pair waived their entitlement to any human rights the day they kidnapped, tortured and murdered an innocent 3 year old child.

Dirk Diggler 75

They should never be let out (life should mean life) .....

alcazar

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The whole thing brings tears to my eyes if I think about it, not just for poor little Jamie Bulger, but for two other lives wrecked...the two lads who did it.

WHY they did is still unknown, but their lives are wrecked whichever way, as are those of their families, just as little Jamie''s family is destroyed.

Leslie

He should never be released.

Les

alcazar

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I can see how people can look at it that way, and if it had been my child that was hurt, or killed, I would probably say the same...or worse.

But I can also see it from the young lads who did the crime's point now...I'd like to bet that BOTH of them would take it back if they could.

And yes, I do feel sorry for them. I brought up a lad with ADHD who acted and then, if ever, thought about what he'd done. And it was hard, for him, his family and those around him

dazzaturbo

But they can't take it back, they didn't just kill the poor lad on accident they tortured him.
I don't feel an ounce of sorrow for the pair of mongrel *******s and am sickened that mine and your taxes are going (again) to give this murdering peodophile a brand new identity.

Would you say you felt sorry for venebles in front of little James's mother??

Dirk Diggler 75

The judicial service must change to make sentances fit the crime ,life should mean life ....

alcazar

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No...of course not.

Yet I do.

From where I now sit I can look back on the first twenty years of my lad's life, and think, "there but for the grace of God....." You just NEVER knew what he was going to do next. I'm pretty certain that his upbringing wouldn't have led to him carrying out an attack like that, but what if he met another like him? What if we, and the other kids' parents thought that violence and torture were the norm? What then??

Those two who did that awful crime were just kids. It doesn't excuse them, it doesn't really give us any reason, but who KNOWS what was going through their heads? Or why?

If you can't feel sorrow for two young lives wrecked, then so be it.

But I do.

hodgy0_2

Life does mean life, they have a life sentence - that they will die with

They are let out on "licence", and can be recalled to prison at any time for any reason

What you really mean is life imprisionment with no prospect of parole or release



People do serve life in prison, a condition of parole with a life sentence, is that you admit your crime which is tough for people who believe they are innocent

dazzaturbo

Even after the fact he has been downloading images and videos of child ****,abuse,torture you still feel sorry for him??

I fail to see how

Do you feel sorry for jimmy Seville because his name has been tarnished after his death??
Do you feel sorry for Myra hindley because she was taken down the 'wrong' path by Ian Brady??
How about Maxine Carr??

He has now had more than enough chances and should be strung up IMO.

Dirk Diggler 75

Yep no prospect for parole or release,they might think twice about commiting such evil crimes .....

The Pink Ninja

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Evil piece of shit that should have been offed on the inside if you ask me.

Essexdon

Apparently he was living in Warrington just down the road from Liverpool despite being banned from the Mersey area. He was outed by a guy he worked with in the local Pizza Hut when he was first banged up for downloading the images, as he just disappeared without a trace.

Also the judge had revealled that Venables had been living in the Cheshire area, working a entry level job, unsociable hours and minimum wage role.

ALi-B

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My problem with Venables's release now is that this man has never had any form of a normal upbringing. The majority of his learning life he's spent in a abnormal environment accompanied by other youth offenders of varying degrees. Polluting his mind with what is acceptable behavior or interaction with the world. Accompanied by psychological assessment, and attempts of rehabilitation to what gain I don't really know bar find a impairment or condition to excuse the way he is.

The result of all this is whilst this boy was not "right" then before killing Bulger. IMO He crossed a point of no return. Our laws and prison system were and still are ill-equipped to handle someone like this - as it never had seen a person like this before. Which has meant this boy is now an adult who has little ability to properly act as adult in the outside world - he may have been taught how to, but he has never experienced it and likely will never cope or act properly; As a result of psychological coaching he will have learnt to act or mask his true inner feelings towards those who have any power in his direction in life.

The result IMO is our penal system may well have coached and trained a disturbed boy into being possibly a highly calculating psychopath....His release will only give him opportunity to practice what he has learnt: To make sure whatever he does wrong isn't seen or known by anyone but himself. He may have been told the moral compass, but life segregated from the world has prevented him from truly understanding it.

To sum up: Our penal system will have turned this feral animal into a cold calculating monster. And we're about to loose him out of his cage.

alcazar

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You never heard of forgivenesss then?

I'm not going to aregue with you. I won't be changing my mind, having lived the life I have. Sorry.

dazzaturbo

It's not an argument it's a debate

But surely some acts are unforgivable??

I wonder weather you would feel the same if his new identity meant he will be moving in 2 doors down from you??

EOEUMC

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I totally agree with this point or you take a life, you give a life! Which I suppose is on the same sort of lines as the death penalty.

I have not taken much notice of it this time as I still think when they gave them new identities the first time around was really bang out of order
Has the little ****** got another new identity or is he up for easy pickings this time?

alcazar

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Semantics

Why? And where do you draw the line? And who draws it?

Wouldn't worry me.

Believe me, I've thought a LOT about this, and at the time of the incident, probably felt as you do now.

But my last twenty seven years have changed me, slowly, but surely.

Matthew 18:21-22 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.

Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

And before you ask, no I don't go to church, but both the above seemed relevant.

belliott69

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Does that mean you've downloaded child **** and murdered and tortured young children? Forgiveness is only given to people who truly do something to repay their past actions.

dazzaturbo

I suppose its a personal thing then.

I don't think (personally) he should ever have been released especially after he has proven to still be having these sick sexual urges towards children.

Personally I wouldn't be able to have this scumbag living near me (being a parent of 2 young children).

You asked where you draw the line and IMO if you are a peodophile or have killed children then that is the far beyond the line of forgiveness.

Its also funny how you used quotes from the bible as I don't think any religious book has ANY relevance in modern society

Obviously that is my view and if you don't mind the absolute lowest of the low in humanity walking around without a care in the world then that is your view and fine with me

We shall just have to disagree about it

Leslie

I wonder how happy most people would feel about trusting in the welfare of your child if it was left alone in his company.

Les