Is Egypt on the verge of civil war?
30 June 2013, 04:50 PM
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Is Egypt on the verge of civil war?
01 July 2013, 05:00 PM
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According to the BBC news the Egyptian Millitary have ginen the two sides 48 hours to sort it all out or the Millitary will create it's own "road map".......... Junta anybody?
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03 July 2013, 11:20 PM
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50 or so million people had a choice to vote in their first free election and around 50% (wikipedia!) of people had also exercised their democratic right not to vote.
The 2010 UK General Election had a turn out of 62%.
The 2010 UK General Election had a turn out of 62%.
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04 July 2013, 06:28 AM
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Perhaps the Egyptian idea of democracy is mob rule.
Maybe they need the equivalent of the BBC constantly reinforcing the "how wonderful their system is" message.
A strong public broadcasting system is essential to the democratic process according to some.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22861577
"We are very shocked, we are angry," she told the BBC's Newshour programme. "What I cannot accept in a democracy is that Greece will not have a public broadcaster."
Not a whiff of vested interest there then?
Maybe they need the equivalent of the BBC constantly reinforcing the "how wonderful their system is" message.
A strong public broadcasting system is essential to the democratic process according to some.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22861577
"We are very shocked, we are angry," she told the BBC's Newshour programme. "What I cannot accept in a democracy is that Greece will not have a public broadcaster."
Not a whiff of vested interest there then?
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04 July 2013, 07:30 AM
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Just goes to show "the grass is not always greener" some places need dictators to keep the rival factions under control.
This idea that we can "Export" democracy to places that have never had it and struggle with the concept is flawed, as demonstrated in the recent events here.
At the end of the day no matter how much we all like to think our way is the best for everyone, it's not, it's only the best for us, you can't just plonk democracy on top of thousands of years of another culture and expect it to work, never going to happen, what they need is a "modern" dictator, it's the only thing they understand and respect.
I predict they and the other countries that we have effectively "forced" our way upon will rebel and revert, and more power to them.
At the end of the day the only REAL reason our illustrious leaders are interested in "Democracy" in these countries is so we can take greater advantage of them, and make more money out of them without having to go through "The Main Man" who historically tend to play "Hard Ball" and have strong characters so are difficult to circumnavigate, But once a "democratic" committee is installed ( ie ministers and cabinet) it's much easier to bribe and leaver the various heads of department.
Same principal as offering "Shiny Beads" to the natives in return for bit's of rock or that gloopy smelly black stuff that comes from the ground.
This idea that we can "Export" democracy to places that have never had it and struggle with the concept is flawed, as demonstrated in the recent events here.
At the end of the day no matter how much we all like to think our way is the best for everyone, it's not, it's only the best for us, you can't just plonk democracy on top of thousands of years of another culture and expect it to work, never going to happen, what they need is a "modern" dictator, it's the only thing they understand and respect.
I predict they and the other countries that we have effectively "forced" our way upon will rebel and revert, and more power to them.
At the end of the day the only REAL reason our illustrious leaders are interested in "Democracy" in these countries is so we can take greater advantage of them, and make more money out of them without having to go through "The Main Man" who historically tend to play "Hard Ball" and have strong characters so are difficult to circumnavigate, But once a "democratic" committee is installed ( ie ministers and cabinet) it's much easier to bribe and leaver the various heads of department.
Same principal as offering "Shiny Beads" to the natives in return for bit's of rock or that gloopy smelly black stuff that comes from the ground.
I've been several times and have a few Egyptian friends, and that statement is simply not true.
