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Happened to me last year.
Was on the way to Florida, literally halfway across the Atlantic.......POP!! There was a popping sound, then a grinding noise. I've been on a lot of flights and know what 'normal' sounds come from aeroplane engines, and this wasn't normal! Air stewards started talking to eachother and that's when we definitely knew something wasn't right! About 10 mins later, captain came on and said there was "nothing to worry about"............but we were diverting to Iceland!!!
Coming into land at Iceland, we could see emergency boats out on the coastline and there were loads of fire trucks etc upon coming into land. I literally shat my pants for about 3 hours until we landed. We lost 2 days of our holiday in Florida.
http://avherald.com/h?article=45819625
It also turned out that it happened to the same plane numerous times after.
We're currently trying to get compensation out of Thomas Cook, its proving difficult though as I'm sure that anyone who has tried to gain compo from an airline before, or is knowledgeable in this field knows that airlines have a habit of citing "extraordinary circumstances".
In Thomas cooks defence, we could have been treated better for accommodation in Iceland. They put us up in the 'hotel Rekyavic'.....very lush!!!
Was on the way to Florida, literally halfway across the Atlantic.......POP!! There was a popping sound, then a grinding noise. I've been on a lot of flights and know what 'normal' sounds come from aeroplane engines, and this wasn't normal! Air stewards started talking to eachother and that's when we definitely knew something wasn't right! About 10 mins later, captain came on and said there was "nothing to worry about"............but we were diverting to Iceland!!!
Coming into land at Iceland, we could see emergency boats out on the coastline and there were loads of fire trucks etc upon coming into land. I literally shat my pants for about 3 hours until we landed. We lost 2 days of our holiday in Florida.
http://avherald.com/h?article=45819625
It also turned out that it happened to the same plane numerous times after.
We're currently trying to get compensation out of Thomas Cook, its proving difficult though as I'm sure that anyone who has tried to gain compo from an airline before, or is knowledgeable in this field knows that airlines have a habit of citing "extraordinary circumstances".
In Thomas cooks defence, we could have been treated better for accommodation in Iceland. They put us up in the 'hotel Rekyavic'.....very lush!!!
Happened to me last year.
Was on the way to Florida, literally halfway across the Atlantic.......POP!! There was a popping sound, then a grinding noise. I've been on a lot of flights and know what 'normal' sounds come from aeroplane engines, and this wasn't normal! Air stewards started talking to eachother and that's when we definitely knew something wasn't right! About 10 mins later, captain came on and said there was "nothing to worry about"............but we were diverting to Iceland!!!
Coming into land at Iceland, we could see emergency boats out on the coastline and there were loads of fire trucks etc upon coming into land. I literally shat my pants for about 3 hours until we landed. We lost 2 days of our holiday in Florida.
http://avherald.com/h?article=45819625
It also turned out that it happened to the same plane numerous times after.
We're currently trying to get compensation out of Thomas Cook, its proving difficult though as I'm sure that anyone who has tried to gain compo from an airline before, or is knowledgeable in this field knows that airlines have a habit of citing "extraordinary circumstances".
In Thomas cooks defence, we could have been treated better for accommodation in Iceland. They put us up in the 'hotel Rekyavic'.....very lush!!!
Was on the way to Florida, literally halfway across the Atlantic.......POP!! There was a popping sound, then a grinding noise. I've been on a lot of flights and know what 'normal' sounds come from aeroplane engines, and this wasn't normal! Air stewards started talking to eachother and that's when we definitely knew something wasn't right! About 10 mins later, captain came on and said there was "nothing to worry about"............but we were diverting to Iceland!!!
Coming into land at Iceland, we could see emergency boats out on the coastline and there were loads of fire trucks etc upon coming into land. I literally shat my pants for about 3 hours until we landed. We lost 2 days of our holiday in Florida.
http://avherald.com/h?article=45819625
It also turned out that it happened to the same plane numerous times after.
We're currently trying to get compensation out of Thomas Cook, its proving difficult though as I'm sure that anyone who has tried to gain compo from an airline before, or is knowledgeable in this field knows that airlines have a habit of citing "extraordinary circumstances".
In Thomas cooks defence, we could have been treated better for accommodation in Iceland. They put us up in the 'hotel Rekyavic'.....very lush!!!
There is more to it though bud unfortunately. Things like engineers working on the engine before the flight, certain sounds on takeoff etc. then you have what happened to the same aircraft on the flights afterwards. Always the same engine, people reporting sounds etc.
You should be able to enlist the help of an ABTA representative. There seems enough evidence to give you a good basis for pursuing compensation. A lot of companies rely on people getting fed up and not bothering to pursue a claim.
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Apparently the port engine lost its engine covers for some unexplained reason. Possible of course that the covers had not been correctly secured after engine maintainance
They were saying on the news that the other engine was on fire as well but it looked more to me like the black smoke which you see in the exhaust at a high power setting which means a lot of fuel is going through the engine. The pilot would have been using a high power setting on the live engine with a full load of passengers and a heavy load of fuel on board since he only had the one engine left! Used to see that all the time during takeoff with some aircraft. The media were very fast to say that the engine was on fire, to be expected I imagine.
Les
They were saying on the news that the other engine was on fire as well but it looked more to me like the black smoke which you see in the exhaust at a high power setting which means a lot of fuel is going through the engine. The pilot would have been using a high power setting on the live engine with a full load of passengers and a heavy load of fuel on board since he only had the one engine left! Used to see that all the time during takeoff with some aircraft. The media were very fast to say that the engine was on fire, to be expected I imagine.
Les
Les, the old Olympus may well have been smokey at high power, but modern high bypass civil engines like the V2500 are usually very clean. Twin jets are horrendously over-powered, so that they can take off on one engine, should the other suffer a catastrophic failure beyond V1. The engines therefore typically run at a huge de-rate for normal take-off.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
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Les, the old Olympus may well have been smokey at high power, but modern high bypass civil engines like the V2500 are usually very clean. Twin jets are horrendously over-powered, so that they can take off on one engine, should the other suffer a catastrophic failure beyond V1. The engines therefore typically run at a huge de-rate for normal take-off.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
The twin engine aircraft that you mention must have very effective rudders possibly combined with a very high safety speed.
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AAIB special report has been issued.
Special Bulletin S3/2013 - Airbus A319-131, G-EUOE
Report name:
S3/2013 - Airbus A319-131, G-EUOE
Registration:
G-EUOE
Type:
Airbus A319-131
Location:
London Heathrow Airport
Date of occurrence:
24 May 2013
Category:
Commercial Air Transport - Fixed Wing
Summary:
As the aircraft departed Runway 27L at London Heathrow Airport, the fan cowl doors from both engines detached, puncturing a fuel pipe on the right engine and damaging the airframe, and some aircraft systems. The flight crew elected to return to Heathrow. On the approach to land an external fire developed on the right engine. The left engine continued to perform normally throughout the flight. The right engine was shut down and the aircraft landed safely and was brought to a stop on Runway 27R. The emergency services quickly attended and extinguished the fire in the right engine. The passengers and crew evacuated the aircraft via the escape slides, without injury.
Subsequent investigation revealed that the fan cowl doors on both engines were left unlatched during maintenance and this was not identified prior to aircraft departure.
Special Bulletin S3/2013 - Airbus A319-131, G-EUOE
Report name:
S3/2013 - Airbus A319-131, G-EUOE
Registration:
G-EUOE
Type:
Airbus A319-131
Location:
London Heathrow Airport
Date of occurrence:
24 May 2013
Category:
Commercial Air Transport - Fixed Wing
Summary:
As the aircraft departed Runway 27L at London Heathrow Airport, the fan cowl doors from both engines detached, puncturing a fuel pipe on the right engine and damaging the airframe, and some aircraft systems. The flight crew elected to return to Heathrow. On the approach to land an external fire developed on the right engine. The left engine continued to perform normally throughout the flight. The right engine was shut down and the aircraft landed safely and was brought to a stop on Runway 27R. The emergency services quickly attended and extinguished the fire in the right engine. The passengers and crew evacuated the aircraft via the escape slides, without injury.
Subsequent investigation revealed that the fan cowl doors on both engines were left unlatched during maintenance and this was not identified prior to aircraft departure.
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Les, the old Olympus may well have been smokey at high power, but modern high bypass civil engines like the V2500 are usually very clean. Twin jets are horrendously over-powered, so that they can take off on one engine, should the other suffer a catastrophic failure beyond V1. The engines therefore typically run at a huge de-rate for normal take-off.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
Regarding this event, it does look odd that the cowling has come off on both engines, which maybe suggests they weren't locked before flight? The fire on the stbd side looks like it may have been external, and could have been caused by fractured fuel and / or oil pipes. A video showing the port engine on landing shows the c-ducts translating for reverse thrust, so that engine was at least perfectly ok.
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