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Old 16 May 2013, 09:57 AM
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Default Selling a Car to a guy from Kenya!

Hi,

I get a phone call from a guy in Kenya – inquiring about a car I am selling.

He said he imports cars from the UK. We wanted to transfer the money to my bank – I said no it has to be cash!

So he said he has a friend in the UK, who can come see the car and pay me the cash.

Now, I have heard never to sell cars to people via bank transfers, but what should I do in this situation..

He wants to come Saturday:

Precautions taken:
  • Will meet him at my friend’s shop so that I don’t get robbed – as there will be afew of us there.
Once he agrees, I will go to the bank with him to deposit the cash


Any other advise..?
Old 16 May 2013, 09:59 AM
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Initially he was willing to buy your car without seeing it first? Before you mentioned you wanted cash I mean.
Old 16 May 2013, 10:00 AM
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I've sold loads of cars to be exported and I'd do what you suggest get cash.. take it to the bank before letting the car go.. then you're covered! Once paid and log books signed its not your problem as far as i know.
Old 16 May 2013, 10:11 AM
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It's a scam , you'll be a mug to even entertain the idea
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Yeah do it, I wanna post on your 'I got scammed' thread
Old 16 May 2013, 10:48 AM
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He can't take the money out once it's in....can he?


Anyway your second option would be okay
Old 16 May 2013, 10:52 AM
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Ask him how he'll get it there while you're at it.

We might be shipping a car to Zim in the next year, costs more than the car will. Maybe sheerness -Windhoek. But could have to be Durban

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Old 16 May 2013, 10:57 AM
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i sold a jeep to a guy who exports to africa... wasnt a scam. guy turned up with cash.. jeep went with him...

possible scams at every corner.... seller beware
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Can I come and visit you in A & E?

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Old 16 May 2013, 11:06 AM
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Im not scared..i was only asking about what should i think about..

The deal will go through this Saturday.

I have seen posts from people where people do come from abroad - its a money laundering scandle.. but that not my concern.
Old 16 May 2013, 11:08 AM
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Did he sound Nigerain.?
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Originally Posted by dpb
Did he sound Nigerain.?
lol...odley enough he did not..actually thinking back he did not even sound Kenyan - but the number checked out to be from Kenya..

He sounded like a normal person - had he called from the UK i would have thought nothing of it..
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Originally Posted by SamUK
he did not even sound Kenyan <snip> He sounded like a normal person


BTW I am pretty sure that if you are knowingly involved in a transaction that could be money laundering you are breaking the law.

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Old 16 May 2013, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat



BTW I am pretty sure that if you are knowingly involved in a transaction that could be money laundering you are breaking the law.
This is true, but plausible deniability is a great defence.

I personally think its a scam, BUT... Not necessarily a scam that is going to affect the vehicle seller.

It's highly likely that its money laundering, or a smuggling ring involving vehicles.

If he does come with cash, make sure all your paperwork is spot on, and that he fills out the export details on the V5.

Have fun! Lol
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Old 16 May 2013, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenchwood
This is true, but plausible deniability is a great defence.
What if you've posted on a forum that you suspect it is money laundering?
Old 16 May 2013, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat

What if you've posted on a forum that you suspect it is money laundering?
Then you're screwed. Lol.

Incidentally, if you suspect foul play of any sort, then you could always ring the police for advice, that constitutes "extreme *** coverage" if they give you the go ahead.


Isn't there an anti-terrorist phone number you can ring too?? Lol
Old 16 May 2013, 12:07 PM
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Loads of money to be made selling certain cars to Africa, I have sold to african buyers before and have a contact in SA who can collect the cars from namibia and sell them in Zim for me. a Ł1600 5 series here can be worth $10000 in zimbabwe but shipping is 1k and you have to know how to get the cars cleared through customs.
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Scam.
End of.
Old 16 May 2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Loads of money to be made selling certain cars to Africa, I have sold to african buyers before and have a contact in SA who can collect the cars from namibia and sell them in Zim for me. a Ł1600 5 series here can be worth $10000 in zimbabwe but shipping is 1k and you have to know how to get the cars cleared through customs.
Well we've heard they now / not too distant future have to be on a transporter through Namibia
Old 16 May 2013, 12:54 PM
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define cash?
as in cold hard paper money? if he uses someone elses card to pay you then the bank might take it back but physical cash there's no comeback
make sure you check the notes though. you dont want wads off fake dough you can only spend 20 quid at a time in the corner shop lol
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Old 16 May 2013, 01:29 PM
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Don't except money gram or western union. Cash or a non returnable bank transfer. Have cask checked for forged notes.
Buyers from abroad are not always scammers, just make sure the cash is clear before parting with the car.
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When you get the cash, I'll meet you in London I've got a lovely bridge for sale
Old 16 May 2013, 02:16 PM
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My brother sold his M3 under similar circumstances.

The guy who rocked up to do the deal turned up in a car loader with 4 other BMW's on it.

Cash in hand, job done.
Old 16 May 2013, 07:25 PM
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You will be fine, I have sold a jeep to a Romanian who drove it back home to use there as cars were really expensive.

Alternatively he will mug you or kidnap you for the prostitution ring, it depends on how you view the risk.

if I see you post all ok Sunday I know it went the first way, if I read about you in the paper then number 2 it was, I will then have a comparison
Old 16 May 2013, 07:33 PM
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There are far more legitimate purchases than scams, its just you never hear of the ones that go ok. Heres another.

My brother in law sold a Range Rover to Nigerians, he was nervous but took them plus the cash to the bank, did the deal and that was that. He did get a call from customer when they tried to take it out of the country but it was just to ask if they had stolen it. Never heard anything since.
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the giveaway to me is that scammers (and I have had a vehicle for sale a few months ago and pretty much every email response was a scam)

say "I like the price I want to buy the car" -- without any questions re its condition without asking to see it, send a representative to check it over, nothing,

just that as the opening line

and then staight to a load of guff about money transfers, paying extra for shipping cost yada yada yada

the point is they send so many responses they really don't have time to ask, and tbh they don't really care that to the savvy the initial contact screams SCAM

like spam it is a numbers game - some idiot will engage with them

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If this chap is happy buying cars without seeing it at its registered address send him my way, I have some business for him. Once the money is in your hand and youve confirmed its not funny money youre laughing. Doesnt matter from there on in.
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I can't wait to see what happens.


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