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Old 14 May 2013, 12:02 PM
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Red face Mandelson tells the truth?

We all knew it, they continued to deny it and now one more change of direction...

This seems like something akin to confessing ones sins on the deathbed.

Standard version:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...on-admits.html

Or if you want the foaming at the mouth version:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Mandelson.html

Love some of the comments on the mail, you can just picture the red faces of indignation!
Old 14 May 2013, 01:06 PM
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I obviously read the Daily Mail version But wow, it is pretty amazing for them to actually admit that. It's like they all want UKIP to actually win the next election!
Old 14 May 2013, 01:12 PM
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Hahahaha - I particularly liked this DM commentor... note his location!

Look - Britain became wealthy by taking all of their jewels, gold, ivory and selling slaves from there. They are just coming back and getting recompense.
- Lagrange , Mesopotamia, Iraq, 14/5/2013 12:59

hahahahahaha
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Ah yes, those Lithuanian elephants and their ivory
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Ah yes, those Lithuanian elephants and their ivory
I have 2 Lithuanian grads working for me right now. Bloody smart cookies, here contributing and doing a fine job.
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I don't doubt that.
Old 14 May 2013, 02:14 PM
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Which part of Lithuania are you based in Martin?

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Old 14 May 2013, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
Which part of Lithuania are you based in Martin?
Chelmsford
Old 14 May 2013, 02:17 PM
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Martin, which part of the UK are you based in?
Old 14 May 2013, 02:38 PM
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Let's see if he television media run with this? Doubt it.

So people won't know the truth and vote Shower of ****e Labour straight back in again.
Old 14 May 2013, 03:21 PM
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Let's not forget Mandy had to resign from the Cabinet three times because of dodgey activities.
Old 14 May 2013, 03:30 PM
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[quote=The Trooper 1815;11089203]Let's not forget Mandy had to resign from the Cabinet three times because of dodgey activities.[/quote


What was the 3rd resignation?
Old 14 May 2013, 03:39 PM
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I thought there was little distinction really. Most of what he did was that way inclined!

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Old 14 May 2013, 03:48 PM
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After a quick search, I find that the BBC ISN'T running this story. Colour me shocked!
Old 14 May 2013, 03:52 PM
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[quote=Martin2005;11089211]
Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Let's not forget Mandy had to resign from the Cabinet three times because of dodgey activities.[/quote


What was the 3rd resignation?
Sorry twice. The third investigation was brushed under by Gordie.

In October 2008, Mandelson was reported to have maintained private contacts over several years with Russian oligarch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Deripaska, most recently on holiday in August 2008 on Deripaska's yacht at Taverna Agni on the Greek island of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corfu. News of the contacts sparked criticism because, as European Union trade commissioner, Mandelson had been responsible for two decisions to cut aluminium tariffs that had benefited Deripaska's United Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RusAl.

Mandelson denied that there had been a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest and insisted that he had never discussed aluminium tariffs with Deripaska.On 26 October 2008, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Foreign_Secretary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hague claimed the "whole country" wanted "transparency" about Mandelson's previous meetings with Deripaska.

In response, Prime Minister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown said Mandelson's dealings with Deripaska had been "found to be above board". Mandelson said that meeting business figures from "across the range" in emerging economies was part of his brief as EU trade commissioner. On 29 October 2008, while Mandelson was on a ministerial visit to Moscow,it was alleged in the British press that, head of security at Deripaska's company Basic Element, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Pechyonkin, had organised a swift entry visa for Mandelson when he turned up in Moscow to visit Deripaska in 2005.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I have 2 Lithuanian grads working for me right now. Bloody smart cookies, here contributing and doing a fine job.

No British guys who could offer the same level of work, not a dig by the way just wondering.
Old 14 May 2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by belliott69
No British guys who could offer the same level of work, not a dig by the way just wondering.
We have and have had, some absolutely brilliant British grads.

We recruit the best grads we can get our hands on, I would estimate that only about 1 in 3 of the CVs I get are from UK citizens, the rest are from all over the EU.

I think when people think about the whole immigration issue they only think of low-skilled labour from Eastern Europe, that's really not the whole story.
Freedom of movement in the EU is good for us, and many bsuinesses like ours. High calibre grads are the absolute lifeblood of our business. I wonder what a UKIP style blanket ban on immigration would do to businesses like ours?
Old 14 May 2013, 08:32 PM
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Thanks Labour for deliberately killing the UK, they should be abolished as a political party for this..
Old 15 May 2013, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Chelmsford
South East: thought so.

You wouldn't be so cocky if you lived up here.
Old 15 May 2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
South East: thought so.

You wouldn't be so cocky if you lived up here.
Cocky??

I was asked a question and gave the answer.

Just because you don't like it isn't my fault.


PS MOVE THEN!!!!
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At least now we have a possible reason why Martin is so pro-EU! Is he taking advantage of the cheap labour market afforded by the EU immigration regulations? To think he calls himself a moderate
Old 15 May 2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
At least now we have a possible reason why Martin is so pro-EU! Is he taking advantage of the cheap labour market afforded by the EU immigration regulations? To think he calls himself a moderate


Old 15 May 2013, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Cocky??
yes, sums you up to a T.

Originally Posted by Martin2005
I was asked a question and gave a cocky answer as usual.
Edited for truth and accuracy.

Originally Posted by Martin2005
Just because you don't like it isn't my fault.
never said it was, nor did I say I didn't like it. You can be cocky if you want, we all know where you are coming from anyway...


Originally Posted by Martin2005
PS MOVE THEN!!!!
Not an option...and I wouldn't live in Essex if YOU paid me...I'd have to kill everyone that talked Estuary English at me
Old 15 May 2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
At least now we have a possible reason why Martin is so pro-EU! Is he taking advantage of the cheap labour market afforded by the EU immigration regulations? To think he calls himself a moderate
I see you are maintaining stellar run of being wrong on things

So 2 things

1. I'm not 'Pro-EU' just as I'm not Anti-EU. I'm euro-sceptic (in the true sense)

2. The people we hire, whether from the UK or EU are certainly not cheap. We hire the best grads we can get. The simple truth is that there are not enough UK grads about with the skills we require. I believe this says more about the university system than our recruitment policy.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I see you are maintaining stellar run of being wrong on things

So 2 things

1. I'm not 'Pro-EU' just as I'm not Anti-EU. I'm euro-sceptic (in the true sense)

2. The people we hire, whether from the UK or EU are certainly not cheap. We hire the best grads we can get. The simple truth is that there are not enough UK grads about with the skills we require. I believe this says more about the university system than our recruitment policy.
If you look closely it was a question. Thanks for answering, but try not being so cocky in future

P.S. A gold star for actually managing a successful use of the quote function for once

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