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Old 15 April 2013, 05:39 PM
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I have posted this in Photography but had no reply. It is a matter of some urgency.

WHICH BRIDGE CAMERA?


I am looking at buying a new camera and want to go for a bridge camera. The only camera I have at the moment is the one on my Samsung Galaxy S3. I have reduced the list of cameras to:
Fujifilm HS30EXR and
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-HX200V

My question is, which of these are the best? Which is better for all round photography? I will be shooting everything from old buildings to action shots at motor race meetings.

Thanks
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Old 15 April 2013, 06:12 PM
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just to throw another into the mix what about the Canon Powershot SX40
Old 15 April 2013, 06:45 PM
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Bridge cameras will, bluntly, be a bit **** for action shots at motor sports events.

You'll need a DSLR and a fast lens for that.

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Originally Posted by Devildog
Bridge cameras will, bluntly, be a bit **** for action shots at motor sports events.

You'll need a DSLR and a fast lens for that.
i didn't want to say it


for £300 you could get a good startup second hand DLSR kit
Old 15 April 2013, 09:26 PM
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The Canon SX50HS has a 1000mm zoom lens and Canon are doing cashback at the moment. which supersedes the SX40.
As said though you would probably be better off with a cheap DSLR.
Second hand EOS40d maybe?
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The problem is my budget doesn't run to a DSLR with a set of lenses up to at least 300mm. Due to being in a wheelchair I sometimes struggle getting closer to the subject so need the convenience of a super zoom bridge camera even if it means a slower lens speed
Old 15 April 2013, 10:36 PM
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I got my first dlsr second hand a canon 350d with a 75-300mm canon lens. For £200

There's bargains out there
Old 18 April 2013, 03:42 PM
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Can only reiterate whats already been said with such a diverse range of subjects a Bridge camera just won't cut it you'd be better sticking to your s3.
The fixed lenses on bridge camera are fine for superior holiday photos but the fixed lens will do nothing but frustrate you when you get more serious.

There are some fantastic entry level dslr's out there you can have my old eos 300d for £150
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Have you looked at the Nikon P-510?

42x optical zoom so I assume it would be good for motorsport?
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Originally Posted by Boro
Have you looked at the Nikon P-510?

42x optical zoom so I assume it would be good for motorsport?
It's the shutter speed that will be the problem
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What shutter speed would you need for that?
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For motorsport I usually use a shutter speed of 1/125 - 1/160 for panning and 1/500 for action.
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Originally Posted by Ant
It's the shutter speed that will be the problem
Just reading up about shutter speed/shutter lag and seems the Nikon P-510 is pretty good in these areas. So defo worth a look!
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The problem is that a lot of compact and bridge cameras have a long focal length and a fast shutter speed. At first glance that seems a good combination, but in reality it will only work in very bright conditions. The lens optics are just too small to gather enough light needed to operate at a high shutter speed. When I say too small, I'm talking about the diameter of the elements in the lens. If you look at the pro lens used by sports photographers you'll notice that they are long and have a large elements to gather the light. This won't happen with a bridge camera. IMHO get a second hand DSLR for a couple of hundred quid.
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Have to agree with the 2nd hand DSLR route,

My first foray into that field, was a Cannon 100FN with 35-55 lens cost me £89

My zoom lens 70 300 cost about another £80...

My current camera Nikon D5100, cost about £500, and the zoom lens 70-300

was about another £140

However ther are loads of last years models in most good camera shops as exhange items , for a fraction of there new cost.

If i hadnt changed to Nikon, my current camera emporium, has Canon 200 /300 zoom lenses from £40 - £140 squid, coupled with a good body, and your well on the road


JUst looked...

The Fujifilm HS30EXR is about £250

The Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-HX200V is about £289


The Nikon D5100 (16mp) is now £399 with £40 cashback from Nikon, so £359, (and thats high street prices lol)

A D3100 (14mp) can be snapped up for £269 lol

Check Park camera's if you want some deals...



Mart

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Originally Posted by magepaster
The problem is my budget doesn't run to a DSLR with a set of lenses up to at least 300mm. Due to being in a wheelchair I sometimes struggle getting closer to the subject so need the convenience of a super zoom bridge camera even if it means a slower lens speed

Listen to what the man said
Old 20 April 2013, 02:35 PM
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I nearly bought a bridge camera, but was appalled at the slow startup, and shutter lag problems.

I ended up with a D70, and now have a D300.
Old 20 April 2013, 03:21 PM
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OK so I've got the chance of a
Nikon D50 with an 18-55mm lens and a 55-200mm lens, 1gb memory card

or

Canon 500D with 18-55mm lens, 8GB memory card

What should I go for?
Old 20 April 2013, 04:12 PM
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The Nikon.

Memory cards are cheap, lenses not so.

I love my Nikon.
Old 20 April 2013, 04:41 PM
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Will the difference in Megapixels between the Nikon and the Canon make that much difference to the final results?
Old 20 April 2013, 05:11 PM
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Tough call,

In terms of Megapixels the canon is way above the Nikon, and would get my vote.

Again in terms of Lenses.... Nikon enthusiast or entry level camera's put the AF motor in the lens... make them bloody expensive even SH

Only when you get to the bigger specced models do you get the AF built in.

I would check this out, (that said all the cannon lenses is see SH blow the Nikon out of the water price wise)

My First SLR was a cannon, I only changed to Nikon as i wanted somthing different.
Id go down the Cannon route,

You may find cheap lenses at a later date. the camera is fine

The nikon, as much as i like and own them, can be frustrating to work with from Raw files, and given its only 6Mp may leave you wanting if you start to zoom and crop

Mart
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Thanks Mart.

The Nikon is on sale for £295 while the Canon I can get for £200. This means I could spend the £95 I would save on a 55-200mm lens which would leave me with a fairly decent starter kit for less than £300. Do you agree?


Regards
Martin

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I'm a canon fan so I would always advise canon


Edit- I over looked the models , if I wasn't a canon fan I would recommend the canon everytime it's a later and better model in every context

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Originally Posted by magepaster
Thanks Mart.

The Nikon is on sale for £295 while the Canon I can get for £200. This means I could spend the £95 I would save on a 55-200mm lens which would leave me with a fairly decent starter kit for less than £300. Do you agree?


Regards
Martin
Personally thats the way i would go, The Nikon is nice, but 6mp is fairly low even by todays SLR standards
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For motorsport I'd recommend 75-300 if you can
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How about this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-D310...item3cd0cc73de

Or this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-D90-...item3a804f58f7

Or this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIKON-D90-...item35c6792d4c

Not that I prefer Nikon.....
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