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Old 05 April 2013, 05:24 PM
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Hello all,just a quick question,can i drive a recovery truck with C1 and C1E
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Old 05 April 2013, 05:27 PM
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Yes mate you can. A normal aa recovery truck wont be a problem
Old 05 April 2013, 05:29 PM
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Cheers mate ^^^
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If its for the aa they require a c+e its its plated for the higher weight
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Old 05 April 2013, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
If its for the aa they require a c+e its its plated for the higher weight
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Do you mean C1E ...
Old 05 April 2013, 06:55 PM
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No: C+E. I was surprised by this, but I talked to a fellow recovering me a few years ago and he had to have a Class 1 to drive them.
Old 05 April 2013, 06:56 PM
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I wish that I hadnt told him that I had a C, because he talked about it all the way home!
Old 05 April 2013, 06:58 PM
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Also: do you have a proper C1+E which is 12 tonnes-odd, or is it a grandfathered right which gives 8,250kgs?
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Originally Posted by GC8
Also: do you have a proper C1+E which is 12 tonnes-odd, or is it a grandfathered right which gives 8,250kgs?
I have the 8.25 tonnes entitlement,does this mean i do not qualify to drive a recovery truck i'm confused a bit now ......

Cheers for the feedback ...
Old 05 April 2013, 07:26 PM
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right AA went to class 1 for towing a car in the specs. you can drive a rigid truck up to i think 28ton ish.
if your towing any cars in specs your recovery truck becomes a class 1 unless you got grandfarther rights.passed your test before 1998
Old 05 April 2013, 07:32 PM
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class c or class 2 in old talk, you can drive anything weight wise as long as its rigid, anything over 750kg towing will require a class c+e or class 1 in old talk.... as above grandfather rights entitles you to tow over 750kgs but only with a 7.5 ton truck. not a class 2

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Thank you Shaun. makes it a bit more clear than mine
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If say the truck was 4.5 tonne can i then pull a vehicle on my licence which was gained before 1998

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yes you can.
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Cheers chaps all this is doing my nut in ......
Old 05 April 2013, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kevstar81
Thank you Shaun. makes it a bit more clear than mine
no worries, its something still fresh in my head, i drive a class 2 at work and we have this debate nearly every day about towing the trailers with diggers on.. some people think becouse i drive a truck i can tow anything aswell

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
If say the truck was 4.5 tonne can i then pull a vehicle on my licence which was gained before 1998
if im right i think that is legal, providing what you are towing dose not weigh more than what your using to tow it..
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I think on my licence total weight allowed is 8250kgs or 8.25 tonnes
It has a code 107 next to it

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I had the same problem for 7 years. even when the control know you cant do it they try to push it. thats why i had to learn the ins and outs of it all.
all cars, vans and trucks have max towing or laydon weights. but should not exeed your truck weight.

if you got a code next to it you can always phone DVLA and they should be able to tell you more about your licence. i also did that as well
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Cheers all for the help ....
Old 05 April 2013, 08:21 PM
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C1 you can drive upto 7500kg with 750 trailer.

C1+E as above but you can drive a combination upto 12000kg. Trailer must not be heavier than the towing vehicle.

C is 32000kg plus 750kg trailer.

C+E is trailer over 750kg.

The AA run some fairly large vehicles, I am sure some of their larger flat beds are 18 tonners. Plus you might need to tow a trailer that a customer was towing with their range rover... hence the need for C+E.

A pal of mine was on recovery for quite a few years and he has C+E.

HTH!
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It's a small recovery company that asks for minimum 7.5 tonne entitlement i thought thats what i have seeing as i passed my test before 1998 ....
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K just be sure what they want you to drive before you take the job - if you have not driven much on the LGV side you ned to be ready to be pulled by VOSA and get your collar felt...

Do they use digital tachos or do they use the 100km rule? I assume you dont have a digi card? Also, do you have the Driver CPC card - not law just yet though.

HTH!
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most of the AA trucks are 12 ton with a pay load of 3.5ton max. If they get bigger they used to pass the work to us at Mansfield group. they dont really touch commercial.
Towing was more for the caravans. I used to get out of it. normally they was going miles lol.
Or AA sometimes doubled up on recovery so twice the money for same miles. seen it done loads.
Dirk you should be alright on that. what company you going for then?
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Originally Posted by billythekid
K just be sure what they want you to drive before you take the job - if you have not driven much on the LGV side you ned to be ready to be pulled by VOSA and get your collar felt...

Do they use digital tachos or do they use the 100km rule? I assume you dont have a digi card? Also, do you have the Driver CPC card - not law just yet though.

HTH!
100KM rule i heard about this cpc card but i dont think its come in yet
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Originally Posted by kevstar81
most of the AA trucks are 12 ton with a pay load of 3.5ton max. If they get bigger they used to pass the work to us at Mansfield group. they dont really touch commercial.
Towing was more for the caravans. I used to get out of it. normally they was going miles lol.
Or AA sometimes doubled up on recovery so twice the money for same miles. seen it done loads.
Dirk you should be alright on that. what company you going for then?
Its called redhill recovery in kings norton ....
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CPC is 01/09/14 for LGV.

Ta
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yer i know them very well. they aint to bad. I worked with there sister company Martini recovery.
If you never done it before it can be hard work.
You either love the job or hate it.
If your married or got kids you might struggle abit
Old 05 April 2013, 10:01 PM
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Thanks for the info much appreciated.
Kevstar, they aint too bad to work for are they,i'm getting a bit worried now ???
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They one of the good ones to work for. and from what i remember all the staff are really nice.
I loved the recovery job and would prob still be doing it but got offered a job with sky that i couldnt turn down.
as i said you either love the job or hate it and i loved it
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Do C1 entitlement drivers need a Drivers CPC? I thought that it was vocational licence holders only?

I still don't have one...


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