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Over 100 UK Muslims thought to have gone to fight in conflict.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8533386.html

Good riddance (and don't come back)

RA Dunk

Hopefully they will be strapping C4 to them selfs and won't be coming back.

Seriously if they love the place that much WTF are they doing here to begin with?

Dave1980

just a wild stab in the dark but probably something to do with our benefits system which you dont get in islamic countries

Shaid

And your problem with that is what?

You do realise that we are arming the resistance (who include bits of AQ) don't you?

RA Dunk

So I take it from the above response you find this perfectly acceptable?

Moz_Rb5

iTrader: (2)

100 less to feed and house.

Leslie

Do you actually understand what has been happening in Syria? Do you know what has been happening to those who want a different government?

How can you be so unpleasant towards those who are brave enough to go back and fight for their own country?

Les

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

If they were that passionate about Syria that they will put their life on the line for it, what the hell are they doing living here?!

TelBoy

I don't sense that he has a problem with it? Like many British people, he probably feels that if somebody feels strongly enough to go to Syria to fight a war there voluntarily, maybe they'd be better off not living in the UK at all. Whether it's the UK's arms that permit this isn't especially relevant as far as i can see.

Shaid

If they are fighting on the Syrians side against the terrorists then yes I find it acceptable.

If they are fighting on the terrorists side against the Syrian regime I find that unacceptable.

Which part have you got a problem with? Is it the bit 'how dare they fight?'

Shaid

Does that logic apply to army folk who served in Eye Raq and Afguni Stan? Maybe said soldiers would be better off living in said countries. Ironically maybe they'd be threaten better too.

TelBoy

Yeah except they're in the Army and have to do what they're told

Shaid

Sure, how about those joining knowing full well they will have to help out in the Raq/Stan. Should they go and love there?

How about humanitarian workers? Should they go and live wherever they are doing their work and leave UK for good?

TelBoy

Not sure you're thinking clearly about this. You join the Army because you either really want to be a soldier or else have few other career options. You don't base your decision on where you might or might not be deployed.

Humanitarian workers not sure how that's relevant at all. You're a humanitarian wherever you're needed. Again there is no conscious decision as there is on the part of these very "British" Muslims.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

You are missing the point entirely.

Soldiers are paid to go wherever, they don't do it for love of the place they are sent to.

Humanitarians - the key is in the name; they like serving humanity wherever it is, nothing to do with affiliation with a particular country. Again, they can be sent to anywhere in the world.

scoobynutta555

I was completely against going in and helping 'rebels' in the Libya situation and I'm against the creeping up of help to so called Syrian rebels. I'd wind the clock back even more and leave Saddam in charge too. Yes they were tyrants and oppressors but they had to be with a population full of fanatics. We've replaced secular leaders with religious wacos in the sham that's democracy in the region.

Are we completely thick not to realise that arms given now will get into the hands of AQ and other terrorists? Weren't the arms given to rebels in Afghanistan to fight the Russians used against our forces?

RA Dunk

I have a problem with the part that they are British or at least resident's of the UK and feel the need to just wonder off and join in on a war, for a religion that's supposedly peacefull you lot are pretty quick to down tools and jump into it feet first.....

Shaid

Don't ****ing start the whole peace bollox with me you mug.

So your problem is that someone has the ***** to fight a regime that's oppressive to its people (supposedly) and are doing something about it rather than moan down the pub with like minded folk and your issue is that because they are from Britain they should not do so.

**** me this country is going down the pan when thought processes like yours are considered rational.

For the record I'm on Assad side against the terrorists.

TelBoy

The point, Shaid, is that anyone who was truly British wouldn't go and fight this war. You can dress it up all you want but that's the truth. And by truly British i mean non-Muslim. Obviously that will be a red rag to a bull to you, and i accept that.

RA Dunk

Now now please put the dummy back in and pick up the toys please, there's a good boy..

My problem has nothing to do with *****, as a UK citizen we have our own forces, leave them to do the fighting.

Shaid

Lol, so basically whites only. Doesn't offend me the slightest. Idiots come in white too

You still fail though. So if the government tell you to go war it's good but if you decide it's the moral thing to do and make a decision for yourself then its wrong and the only excuse you can come up with is 'its not British'!

That's fail beyond words TelBoy

Shaid

Okay then dummy back in and I agree the armed forces should be sorting **** out etc however why does the person who decides they are going to make a stand be considered less British or practically treated like an enemy of state? Why all tue hateful go live in Syria type comments?

TelBoy

But their decision to go to join in this war is purely religious, Shaid, even you must realise that? You've made the point that you support Assad, ok fine, couldn't care less, but people's ire about this action is exclusively because of their supposed nationality. I'm surprised that needed explaining, but there you go.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

I think Britons are tired of people being violent in the name of Islam, wherever they are from.

Shaid

It's not purely religious though is it? Religion also teaches charity and a lot of money has been raised for Syria via collections, charity dinners, etc.

The fact is **** is happening and someone has decided to do something about it. Obviously the fact that the ****ter and the ****tee share the same religion and the hero also shares the same religion and naturally because the hero shares the same religion as the ****tee he will chose to help out there instead of some Christian countries issue.

Much like UK helping US wherever even though it might not concern us (and make us a target too but that's another thread).

Shaid

But this has nothing to do with Britons though has it? FFS these guys and their actions have nothing to do with Britain so why should Britons be upset about it?

TelBoy

Because it looks like they're putting their religion before their declared nationality. And that's very alien to traditional British people.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Because the 'heroes' are calling themselves British.

TelBoy

RRGM will you stop repeating everything i'm saying?

Shaid

Is it really? Do you think Christians put their religion before or after their nationality? Genuine question.