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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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I bet there are some "normal couples" who are having to pay that are delighted for them
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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For the wimmins or the mens?
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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If they want a baby surelg they should just suffer the natural way to get pregnant or pay for it themselves
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:06 PM
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Nice to know where my tax goes
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Good news in my opinion as if nothing else it'll get right up the nose of a few on here
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
If they want a baby surelg they should just suffer the natural way to get pregnant or pay for it themselves
Spot on in my opinion. Or adopt. There are thousands of kids out there that need a home. This world is well and truely screwed up.

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
If they want a baby surelg they should just suffer the natural way to get pregnant or pay for it themselves
Why should they ? They are "GAY" so special rules apply to them just like the immigrants and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Boils my ****.
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Originally Posted by addi monster
Nice to know where my tax goes
Straight up some builders f8nny by the sounds of it
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Good news in my opinion as if nothing else it'll get right up the nose of a few on here
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Is that just for the men?

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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God hates ****
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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God hates ****
I think you'll find that smoking has been proven to be bad for everyone
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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Nobody should get I.V.F. on the NHS.

End of story.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
Why should they ? They are "GAY" so special rules apply to them just like the immigrants and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Boils my ****.
Exactly. Mr Straight Hardworker gets **** all for his efforts exept taxed.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
Nobody should get I.V.F. on the NHS.

End of story.
Interesting... Why not?
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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I actually agree that IVF of any form shouldn't be offered for free on the NHS...

...At least not whilst we still have kids being brought up in care/temporary foster homes.

Harsh, I know, but thats how I feel about it. Having kids should be a privilege, not a right IMO....the cost of a few private IVF treatments is less than the average second hand car. And I'd much prefer NHS resources go towards treating life threatening illnesses.

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I actually agree that IVF of any form shouldn't be offered for free on the NHS...

...At least not whilst we still have kids being brought up in care/temporary foster homes.

Harsh, I know, but thats how I feel about it. Having kids should be a privilege, not a right IMO....the cost of a few private IVF treatments is less than the average second hand car. And I'd much prefer NHS resources go towards treating life threatening illnesses.
I'm with you on the NHS IVF thing, theres too much **** dished out on the NHS that shoulden't be, it's quite clear the NHS is being abused rather than used, why should you me or every other working person have to pay for some bints boob job because she feels a little bit insecure about having small *******?

Thats only one example there are loads more instances of people taking the pi$$ TBH.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:50 PM
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Not sure what RA Dunk is on about re breast augmentaion on the NHS.......

where appropriate I feel that infertile couples should have help from the NHS to have children as for the most part it's a disease that's causing the problem..

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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For the vast majority of people in this country, the NHS has a monopoly on the provision of health care. They have no (realistic) other choice.
The NHS seems quite happy with this and let's face it - who actually welcomes competition in the work place?
As such, the NHS has an obligation to provide elective medical care to these people (IMO).
I am not saying this necessarily is a good thing, just that this is a natural consequence/reality of our model of health service provision.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Just wait for the masses of gay Romanian and Bulgarian couples coming to this country
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Not sure what RA Dunk is on about re breast augmentaion on the NHS.......

where appropriate I feel that infertile couples should have help from the NHS to have children as for the most part it's a disease that's causing the problem..

Shaun
And a lot of the time it is lifestyle choices that effect fertility.

I'm a short ****, is it my right to get an operation to make me taller if such a procedure existed?

IVF is an extremely costly exercise and shouldn't be dished out free of charge. It is a service that is available, but that doesn't mean it should be free for the masses.

There is a couple that we have been friends with for over 12 years now. Around 5 years ago, 'baby-talk' started. After no luck after 18 month, both were tested. Turns out his sperm count was seriously low, to be point where the doctors said don't even bother trying, it isn't going to happen. She was put on some sort of drug that makes her more likely to conceive but again, after another 6 months of no luck, they were put on an IVF program. Before they actually started, they fell pregnant. They were obviously over-joyed and counted her as a blessing.

Now they want a 2nd child and there is already talk of IVF.
Yes, I know they will have to pay for it but it just seems like whatever one wants these days, they get. There is no sense of counting your blessings and being happy with what you have got.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
Nice to know where my tax goes
OMG can this be true? Gay people are tax exempt?
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Not sure what RA Dunk is on about re breast augmentaion on the NHS.......
Presumably this...
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/womenshealth/205847.html
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Apart from gay marriage which is an abomination in my view,they certainly should not be getting IVF.

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Apart from gay marriage which is an abomination in my view,they certainly should not be getting IVF.

Les
So by that comment, you must be a homophobic racist, judging by certain peoples opinions on here. (I don't think you are by the way )
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
I'm a short ****, is it my right to get an operation to make me taller if such a procedure existed?
No, but you probably shouldn't have had a kid in case they are a short **** too and end up being bullied at school.

That seems to be most detractor's logic against gay couples adopting anyway
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No, but you probably shouldn't have had a kid in case they are a short **** too and end up being bullied at school.

That seems to be most detractor's logic against gay couples adopting anyway
What a stupid thing to say.

You know damn well that short ***** make great F1 Driver's!
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Apart from gay marriage which is an abomination in my view,they certainly should not be getting IVF.

Les
Murder, rape, genocide, discrimination .... these are abominable things.

But I just can't see how two people of any gender officially declaring and legally formalising their love for each other can be abominable.

But then I'm not a racist homophobe either!
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Apart from gay marriage which is an abomination in my view,they certainly should not be getting IVF.

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
So by that comment, you must be a homophobic racist, judging by certain peoples opinions on here. (I don't think you are by the way )
Your assumption is right of course.

My feelings are that a marriage is not right between homosexuals because of the real meaning of the term, as I said in an earlier post. It is a vitally important arrangement between heterosexual couples to help to maintain the marriage for the protection of any children.

I also believe that children should be brought up as far as possible with the balanced influence of a mother and father.

I have made it clear enough in earlier posts that if a pair of homosexuals want to pair off then they are best served by going off and living together without making a big fuss about it but by keeping it to themselves on the face of it.

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