pslewis

...... for anyone born in the year 2000 and later.

We all know we wished we had never started smoking - I have since given up - but it is a devastating addiction and the young need a strong arm to save them from themselves.

Does it have any support, do you think?

Myles

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Can't see why not! I'm an ex smoker as well, and my mother is going to die in the future from complications due to COPD as a result of her smoking.
Once again though, it raises the issue of human rights. Some people want to smoke themselves to death and having that joy taken away is an infringement to their rights.

(ex smokers are the most radical, arent they?!)

Oldun

Just ban children, it will save all the binge drinking injuries too.

scunnered

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I lost my mother due to her addiction to smoking. She was only 56.
I'd welcome a complete ban, but it will never happen. The government make to much money from exploiting the smoke addicts.

Myles

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Children are more often than not the result of binge drinking, its the circle of life!

dpb

Bit like speeding really, you don't have to do it

pslewis

We are talking about banning it for children who are 12 years old now ..... and it will be banned forever to them.

It doesn't take long to grow into realising that only the dim smoke ..... sadly, I started smoking at 11 - by the time I was a 40 a day smoker I was 15!! Too late for me until I stopped about 13 years ago ...........

I believe that if a child gets to 17 without smoking then they are not likley to start.

^Qwerty^

When my son was four, some friends were round and one of them smoked. Kids being kids, he went down to the bottom of the garden and said to the one with the ***, "why are you trying to kill yourself?"

He never got an answer.

pslewis

It truly is one of the most ridiculous, stupid, idiotic, senseless, things I ever did!

Scooby B

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The government takes an estimated £10 billion+ a year from taxes on tobacco products. If smoking was banned they would have to make that up somewhere else.

(Granted, if no one smoked the NHS bills would be alot lower)

pslewis

I suspect that it will be cost neutral within 2 decades.

john banks

Genuinely interesting idea.

boxst

Yes, an interesting idea. One could say that it is a slippery slope and then alcohol and other things would follow ...

john banks

Modest alcohol consumption has been associated with benefit. Half of people that smoke die as a result of their habit (Doll & Peto).

Frosticles

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I have never smoked in my life & hate it with a passion.

Yep. Ban it.

Terminator X

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No ban any time soon imho ...

http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-public...-from-tobacco/

TX.

CharlySkunkWeed

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wont work as long as they can be bought in shops by other people . Take illegal drugs as an example , and they cant be bought in shops and they still make it into the hands of kids. Alcohol is the same , didnt you ever get someone old enough to get you drink from the off licence ?

dpb

If we pack up here it means more toddlers in indonesia will have to take up the slack

chocolate_o_brian

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What gets me is the parents who openly smoke around their kids, in the house or car as examples.

They should be charged with child abuse and ******* shot in the face!

hodgy0_2

sadly, so true

jef

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ban all products of tobacco that are addictive and have serious health implications.

theres no need for them to be around.

humans have had a relationship with smoking as a social event, bonding communities, rituals ect, but that was in the past.

so i see no problem with continual supply to current smokers, but not to new smokers, and hopefully itll fizzle itself out of popularity/acceptance ect.

as said the problem is thereare humungous corporations involved in manufacture and supply, so they would suffer no doubt- and they happen to have the best lawyers money can buy and manipulate legislation - as any good lawyer should do.

but genuinely in far off places there maybe be people who have there livelyhood removed by such acts, it would mean government intervention to give these people a sustainable future in other industries, no?

GlesgaKiss

It's no to a ban for me.

Frosticles

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This

ScoobySteve69

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+1....not sure about the shooting in the face though

jef

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whilst i agree, its endangering the lives of there children, purley for a non essential passtime. not like skiing where there a risk vrs benefit consideration, there is no benefit to exposing children to addictive tobbacco smoke.

maintain supply to those already succumbed to addiction, ban sales to new smokers. or go with my radical thoughts on a whole lot of issues from drugs to speeding ect
a political party up to the challenge - i think fcking not!!!!

markjmd

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Brilliant idea, because we know from decades of experience of trying to enforce the ban on numerous other already-illicit substances that it's guaranteed to work.

... oh hang on

markjmd

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Smoking in a car with minors under 16 is already illegal in Australia, some parts of the US and a few other countries around the world, so it's probably just a matter of time before we follow suit.

chocolate_o_brian

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Great news I'd say. It's absolutely abhorrent and testament to child abuse IMO.

Lisawrx

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I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with this.

I don't have an issue with trying to encourage parents/adults not to smoke in confined spaces with children around, but I don't think it's right to compare it to child abuse as such.

My Mam smoked when my brother and I were young, she managed to stop while I was still little (I can't actually ever remember her smoking) but my Dad carried on much longer and while I'm not saying it was in any way good that they smoked around us, hell they wouldn't now, I cannot say I would class what they did as abuse.

chocolate_o_brian

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20-30 years ago maybe, as the information we have now regards passive smoking etc. wasn't as prevalent as it is now.

But with parents and people now knowing what they do about the effects of passive smoking, yet still openly smoke around kids? Then yeah it is child abuse as it is physically harming them.

I'm very stubborn minded on this as a parent myself do we'll agree to disagree on this one