RobsyUK

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Someone I know got a letter today from the tax man saying they have no records of them paying tax since 2007 and can they supply receipts etc.

Granted they haven't.

My question is this....

They earn a max of £250 a week on this second job but pay tax & NI on the first full time job.

What do you think will happen. Jail? large fine???

The amount varys weekly as they collect money off people and the more they collect the more they earn.

Busterbulldog

iTrader: (1)

Fine ,backtax plus interest,theyre *****,when my gran was in hospital ill for months on end,I opened an account and paid into it 13 grand she had under her bedto keep it safe ,revenue noticed it and fined me 10 grand even though I proved it wasnt my money.

Dale17

W@nkers

Jer

That's not tax avoidance its tax evasion.

eelz

iTrader: (10)

Best try Jimmycarr.com he'll have all the answers.!

hodgy0_2

The post does not make sense

The hmrc says he has paid no tax, but then you say he has paid tax and NI doing his "first" job

RobsyUK

iTrader: (2)

Not a He... They...

The have a full time jon 9-5 paying tax n NI, the second job they collect money £250 a week max. never paid tax on this!

Busterbulldog

iTrader: (1)

If I were them I would cancel Christmas

hodgy0_2

so this "Someone I know got a letter today from the tax man saying they have no records of them paying tax since 2007 and can they supply receipts etc.

only relates to the second job

Ant

so they doing a side job and not declaring it?

ScoobyWon't

He's probably just talking ****, like normal.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Are they called Dave Starbucks, Colin Amazon or Phillip Green ?

RobsyUK

iTrader: (2)

Yes no tax has been paid on the second job

Yup

If you don't like it dont read it.. SIMPLES!

Ant

they're stuffed then! Deserve it tbh

Dingdongler

They work as enforcers for loan sharks?

Bugatti

Or self employed as pick pockets/street robbers.

Dingdongler

yellowvanman

or even worse Betterware!

SJ_Skyline

They have multiple jobs and don't pay their tax due, are they a member of parliament?

Maz

iTrader: (34)

That's what I thought, if that's the case then I hope they get the book thrown at them.

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Your friend is evading tax, this practice is illegal and will get them a criminal conviction if the HMRC decide to prosecute, which they generally do.


Your title to this thread says Avoidance, this is perfectly legal and wont get anybody convicted

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Cash in hand? Just deny it surely? They'll come a cropper if they fess up ...

TX.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Denial won't hold much water if those that paid them are questioned.They'll (the payers) will rightly claim tax liability and payment rested with the payee, as the second job appears a self employed venture. Or HMRC can just refer to this thread, £250 a week since 2007.

Camsedin

yeah once the taxman gets its teeth in to you best bet is to hope you have cash laying around to pay what's due

only the rich can avoid the taxman it seems.

eggytheman

JUST GET A DECENT ACCOUNTANT AND THAT MONIES OWED CAN BE REDUCED IF NOT LOST AS WITH EXPENSES ETC... ON 10K ITS NOT HARD TO LOSE.

David Lock

Debt collectors are the arseholes of society.

I hope they get twice what they deserve and a bit more for luck.

dl

RobsyUK

iTrader: (2)

They work for provident. I won't comment on my views but they offer short term loans to people who can't get loans because of their rating. The agent goes to them and if they miss a payment they don't get a fine.
Yes the interest may be a million % and I guess there are some agents who exploit the vulnerable (doesn't this happen with any service?) but they know exactly how much they will be paying in total before they sign.

The £250 is a MAX some weeks it may be £60. I'm just curious to see / hear what fines people have heard others in a similar boat getting.

Ant

Provident! In that case hope they get time.

****ing hate that company

Dingdongler

Somebody more qualified may comment but iirc it can be

1) All the tax owed

2) Interest owed on the tax not paid.

3) A fine that equals the tax owed.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

You think they'll go to all that trouble? Let's say Einstein that you paid me £250 in cash and I kept it in a pot at home and just spent it over a few weeks. There is no proof that I received it and there is no proof that you gave it to me.

TX.