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Old 21 November 2012, 10:23 PM
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Why is it women cant be Bishops, Discuss !
Old 21 November 2012, 10:28 PM
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Very disappointing outcome for The Church of England.
Old 21 November 2012, 10:36 PM
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I've seen some on them 18s websites

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Old 21 November 2012, 10:40 PM
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I just dont understand it, why does being a female preclude you from being a head honcho in the Church of England ? I thought religion was all about peace, love and **** ?

Just says to me its a big old boys club who are scared of women.
Old 21 November 2012, 10:43 PM
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An utterly pathetic decision.

God loves everyone and so all should be equal.
Old 21 November 2012, 10:45 PM
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Yes lots of discontentment now in CoE and rightly so over this
Nothing wrong with a woman bishop
They are so out of touch by voting against the women
No wonder the Cof E are loosing the younger Generation as they go to the more alternative churches
Old 21 November 2012, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Just says to me its a big old boys club who are scared of women.
Isn't that the case for most religions?
Old 21 November 2012, 10:52 PM
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To be honest .... why do those women I saw in the Synod all look like men, dress like men and really want to be men??

There are some things women cannot do ....... being a Bishop is clearly one of them.

Us white honsho's cannot be in the Black Lawyers Club, we can't be in the Womens Netball Team, same with the Church of England Club - for women.

Like it or not, it's their Club ....... they don't want dizzy women making serious decisions - let them choose the flowers for the church, or what colour the vestibule should be painted, but not the serious manly stuff!

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Old 21 November 2012, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I just dont understand it, why does being a female preclude you from being a head honcho in the Church of England ? I thought religion was all about peace, love and **** ?

Just says to me its a big old boys club who are scared of women.
The Clergy voted yes, it was The Laity that didn't get to the requisite 66% falling just 2% short. Felt very sorry for Dr. Williams and the women within the church who'll be unable to realise their ambitions. It's virtually a dead cert to be passed next time round, but that's as much as ten years away now. It makes the church look illiberal where actually it's not.

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Old 21 November 2012, 10:55 PM
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Is it because the choir boys would be happy to be sexually abused by them and the male Cafflick priests would be massively disappointed as they have already cornered the market on abusing young boys?
Old 21 November 2012, 10:57 PM
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Agree with the decision - I don't subscribe to the view of equality between men and women. It doesn't mean that I have less respect for women, it's just that there can not be true equality between them.

Its a biblical teaching - Christ is head of the "Church", man is head of the woman.
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There appears to be a clearer voting system in Burma, than in the C of E.
Old 21 November 2012, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary mag
An utterly pathetic decision.

God loves everyone and so all should be equal.
Yes but you need to consider the differences between protestants and catholics and why they hate each other.

Protestants believe that Jesus was born to a virgin mother, in a stable, and was executed by the Romans, to save us from our sins.

Cathlics believe that Jesus was born to a virgin mother, in a stable, and was executed by the Romans, to save us from our sins.

As you can see, two totally opposing views and that's why the fight over their beliefs and that's why religion in any sort cannot be believed.

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Originally Posted by Mary mag
There appears to be a clearer voting system in Burma, than in the C of E.
Yes, I heard that line a couple of times today, too.
Old 21 November 2012, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Yes, I heard that line a couple of times today, too.
R4?

It certainly appears to be true.
Old 21 November 2012, 11:54 PM
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Yes the Church did actually overwhemingly vote for women bishops. The 'laity' which is actually made up of public god bothering hand wringers of the worst kind, could not get to grips with it, saying it was heresy, and against the 'writings' of the bible.

Therefore really it was the 'public' who rejected it.... Sort of!
Old 21 November 2012, 11:58 PM
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To me it just shows how religion is out of touch with the modern world. Not long before religion is consigned to the history books.
Old 22 November 2012, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Hu
Yes the Church did actually overwhemingly vote for women bishops. The 'laity' which is actually made up of public god bothering hand wringers of the worst kind, could not get to grips with it, saying it was heresy, and against the 'writings' of the bible.

Therefore really it was the 'public' who rejected it.... Sort of!
64% of the hand wringing God botherers voted in favour.
Old 22 November 2012, 10:44 AM
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I'm more concerned about this donkey that was in the manger, but now it wasn't.
Old 22 November 2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tarmac terror
Agree with the decision - I don't subscribe to the view of equality between men and women. It doesn't mean that I have less respect for women, it's just that there can not be true equality between them.

Its a biblical teaching - Christ is head of the "Church", man is head of the woman.
Yes, but the bible was written in the Middle East 2000 plus years ago and they still havent sorted their **** out have they so I wouldnt take that particular book as "Gospel", most others get revised or a new edition, that one doesnt.

I really dont give a toss about religion but they preach all this stuff about harmony but 50 percent of the population cant do a job in that organisation due to being female, some jobs women cant really do (or more likely, dont want to as it is smelly, heavy, dangerous or dirty) but physical strength isnt an issue, men and women dont differ markedly in intelligence so where is your perceived shortfall that precludes women being Bishops ?
Old 22 November 2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosticles
To me it just shows how religion is out of touch with the modern world. Not long before religion is consigned to the history books.
That will be not very long before the world comes apart!

I have never understood why women can't be bishops.

Les
Old 22 November 2012, 02:40 PM
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There was mention on the radio yesterday that women are more easily influenced (by the devil?) and are less trustworthy than men! And that was when it kicked off.
Old 22 November 2012, 02:49 PM
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We call that estrogen these days. Still true though.
Old 22 November 2012, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary mag
God loves everyone
How do you know?

Infact, do you even know if such a person exists?
Old 22 November 2012, 05:19 PM
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What would all the choir boys do?

Old 22 November 2012, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
How do you know?

Infact, do you even know if such a person exists?
He/she exists if you want them to exist.

It cannot be proven that they exist, but many people gain comfort from believing.

And who is anyone else to say they don't exist - it cannot be proven either way.

It saddens me that people think their God is different to someone else's God.
If we all believed the same, there could be religious peace in our world.
Old 22 November 2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary mag
It saddens me that people think their God is different to someone else's God.
If we all believed the same, there could be religious peace in our world.
On second thoughts, I am not too sure about this.
Don't the Jews, Christians and Muslims have the same G-d?
Old 22 November 2012, 06:59 PM
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I'm not a religious person but if the book says men only and people follow the book then rules are rules...
I'm not sure about Muslim or Jewish 'rules' but I bet the women don't kick up a fuss. Shut up and follow the rules in the book
Old 22 November 2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
On second thoughts, I am not too sure about this.
Don't the Jews, Christians and Muslims have the same G-d?
Of course.

Same God, but theirs does things correctly, and yours does things wrongly,

(Apologies if not making sense - English is not my first language)
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Mary mag are you a Christian?


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