The Tory U Turn Party .....
29 May 2012, 06:09 PM
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The Tory U Turn Party .....
PATHETIC!!!
U Turn on hot pasties
U Turn on Static Caravan Sales
U Turn on Forest Sales
U Turn on the Aircraft Carrier Plane choice - yes, Labour made the RIGHT choice all those years ago
Weak, weak, weak, weak Government - we need MEN to lead us, not little Eton Boyz!!
U Turn on hot pasties
U Turn on Static Caravan Sales
U Turn on Forest Sales
U Turn on the Aircraft Carrier Plane choice - yes, Labour made the RIGHT choice all those years ago
Weak, weak, weak, weak Government - we need MEN to lead us, not little Eton Boyz!!
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29 May 2012, 07:48 PM
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You've got career politicians of that inclination going through life without ever having been in the real world. They don't - can't - have a clue about it! What they do have is the very narrow viewpoint their education has given them, again while they are separate from the day-to-day life of anyone not in their wonderful bubble, and then assume that they know best. That makes them dangerous!
These same people would run our country on statistics and studies from, you've guessed it, even more academics, who assume that because they're well-intentioned, they have the right to make everyone else share their sad existence in the furthering of their cause/career.
Theories developed from an ivory tower are best left there rather than used to coerce others. Labour = cloud cuckoo land.
29 May 2012, 08:08 PM
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As daft as this latest carry on has been, I still feel much better with them at the helm than GB. Milliturd is even worse. Labour now are without a shadow of a doubt much less in touch with the working man than the conservatives have ever been.
You've got career politicians of that inclination going through life without ever having been in the real world. They don't - can't - have a clue about it! What they do have is the very narrow viewpoint their education has given them, again while they are separate from the day-to-day life of anyone not in their wonderful bubble, and then assume that they know best. That makes them dangerous!
These same people would run our country on statistics and studies from, you've guessed it, even more academics, who assume that because they're well-intentioned, they have the right to make everyone else share their sad existence in the furthering of their cause/career.
Theories developed from an ivory tower are best left there rather than used to coerce others. Labour = cloud cuckoo land.
You've got career politicians of that inclination going through life without ever having been in the real world. They don't - can't - have a clue about it! What they do have is the very narrow viewpoint their education has given them, again while they are separate from the day-to-day life of anyone not in their wonderful bubble, and then assume that they know best. That makes them dangerous!
These same people would run our country on statistics and studies from, you've guessed it, even more academics, who assume that because they're well-intentioned, they have the right to make everyone else share their sad existence in the furthering of their cause/career.
Theories developed from an ivory tower are best left there rather than used to coerce others. Labour = cloud cuckoo land.
29 May 2012, 08:11 PM
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I agree actually, we do need MEN to lead us. MEN like Tony Bliar, Brown and ***** to take us into illegal wars resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of men, women and children. I'd feel even better if they then went on to earn tens of millions of pounds some of which doing consultancy work for oil companies
29 May 2012, 08:42 PM
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I'll tell you one anecdote about today's Tory and Lib Dem politicians.
In a discussion about at 3rd runway at Heathrow with some local MP's, the numbers of jobs involved in construction and operation came up. Their response?
"Don't talk to us about jobs, we're not interested in jobs"
Remember folks, "We're all in it together"
In a discussion about at 3rd runway at Heathrow with some local MP's, the numbers of jobs involved in construction and operation came up. Their response?
"Don't talk to us about jobs, we're not interested in jobs"
Remember folks, "We're all in it together"
29 May 2012, 09:11 PM
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I'll tell you one anecdote about today's Tory and Lib Dem politicians.
In a discussion about at 3rd runway at Heathrow with some local MP's, the numbers of jobs involved in construction and operation came up. Their response?
"Don't talk to us about jobs, we're not interested in jobs"
Remember folks, "We're all in it together"
In a discussion about at 3rd runway at Heathrow with some local MP's, the numbers of jobs involved in construction and operation came up. Their response?
"Don't talk to us about jobs, we're not interested in jobs"
Remember folks, "We're all in it together"
29 May 2012, 09:18 PM
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29 May 2012, 09:29 PM
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I actually don't maind the reversal on pasties and caravans.
Pasty tax was well fought by Greggs and the caravan one likewise by Willerby in Yorkshire.
Unpopular bit of money grabbing reversed because someone organised people to say "we don't like it". Democracy in action!
nom nom nom.
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Pasty tax was well fought by Greggs and the caravan one likewise by Willerby in Yorkshire.
Unpopular bit of money grabbing reversed because someone organised people to say "we don't like it". Democracy in action!
nom nom nom.
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30 May 2012, 10:11 AM
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The best bit is that there is a real shift back away from the right all across Europe, some of the austerity measures have gone far too far, and the effective privatisation of the NHS and completely ignoring all the health preofessional bodies has cost the Tories dear. Of course the Lib Dems are goign to be obliterated in the next GE after abandoning all their principles in order to hold onto power.
Labour are leading in the opinion polls, and from seemingly a lost cause, it now looks like a real possibility we will end up with a Labour Government in 2015.
Labour are leading in the opinion polls, and from seemingly a lost cause, it now looks like a real possibility we will end up with a Labour Government in 2015.
30 May 2012, 03:12 PM
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I would have thought there would be FAR more concern over the conduct and employment of Andy Coulson than any of these three pathetically insignificant changes of badly thought out policy.
The site of Ed Millibean queing to buy a hot pasty and trying to cash in on the terrible but tragic stupidity of someone trying to decant petrol next to a lighted stove, is odious in the extreme.
All the torys had to do in opposition was to sit and wait for John prescott/Gordon Brown to open their mouths and do ther job for them.
Even teflon the war criminal Tony only yesterday admitted being VERY grateful for the fact that Emails and texting werent as prevalent during his regime otherwise the dodgy dossier et al (and adinfinitum) would have been a much worse debacle.
I am FAR from being a Tory supporter but judging on grounds of ethical and moral bankruptcy the Torys (so far) are still solvent compared the last Blair /Brown government
The site of Ed Millibean queing to buy a hot pasty and trying to cash in on the terrible but tragic stupidity of someone trying to decant petrol next to a lighted stove, is odious in the extreme.
All the torys had to do in opposition was to sit and wait for John prescott/Gordon Brown to open their mouths and do ther job for them.
Even teflon the war criminal Tony only yesterday admitted being VERY grateful for the fact that Emails and texting werent as prevalent during his regime otherwise the dodgy dossier et al (and adinfinitum) would have been a much worse debacle.
I am FAR from being a Tory supporter but judging on grounds of ethical and moral bankruptcy the Torys (so far) are still solvent compared the last Blair /Brown government
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30 May 2012, 04:15 PM
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20p on the price of a pasty is hardly gong to break the bank is it, and if you cant afford an extra 20p then take feckin sarnies to work.
And its good to see politicians actually listening to what the public think for once.
And its good to see politicians actually listening to what the public think for once.
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30 May 2012, 08:27 PM
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The total amount of money they are going to lose by u-turning on these policies is something like 0.07% of the amount that all the other policy changes are going to save.
**** all really and typical of our pathetic media for concentrating on the unimportant.
Avoid the facts, present the rumours, as per sodding usual.
**** all really and typical of our pathetic media for concentrating on the unimportant.
Avoid the facts, present the rumours, as per sodding usual.
30 May 2012, 10:27 PM
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Fact is that the Government were facing defeat in the commons the day they get back from holidays!!
NOTHING to do with listening - nor concern - nor monetary value ...... we are talking Tories here (not known for their compasion and listening qualities!).
NOTHING to do with listening - nor concern - nor monetary value ...... we are talking Tories here (not known for their compasion and listening qualities!).
30 May 2012, 10:35 PM
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I can't see the coalition lasting until the next elections as the Lib Dems will need to get out in order to have chance to promote their own policies.
31 May 2012, 11:04 AM
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billy liar was ALL about compassion and listening wasnt he. He just managed to ignore a million man march and go to war with no proper mandate compassion ?? listening ??? do me a favour
31 May 2012, 01:34 PM
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Another U-turn today, then. Cunningly "burying bad news" amongst the media spotlight being on Jeremy C...Hunt.
Chancellor George Osborne has dropped plans to limit tax relief on charitable giving announced in March's Budget following protests from charities.
There will be no limit - as existed before the Budget - on what an individual can donate to charity and offset against their tax liability.
A spokesman said the Treasury had listened to the views of charities.
It is the latest in a series of U-turns on policies announced in the Budget, including the pasty and caravan taxes.
Mr Osborne said: "I can confirm that we will proceed next year with a cap on income tax reliefs for wealthy people, but we won't be capping relief for giving money to charity.
"It is clear from our conversations with charities that any kind cap could damage donations, and as I said at the Budget that's not what we want at all. So we've listened.
"Frankly, at a time like this the government is going to focus on the big issues like the worsening eurozone crisis and Britain's deficit, and not get distracted with unnecessary arguments. We're going to concentrate our efforts on what really matters: keeping Britain safe in the gathering storm."
The consultation on how a cap would be imposed on the other tax relief measures will continue this summer.
A government spokesman said they had been clear that the uncertainty caused by the proposed cap on charitable reliefs created a risk to the charitable sector and in light of this they had decided to exempt charitable reliefs from the cap.
The Treasury will write to the charitable sector confirming the new position later.
The spokesman declined to comment on the suggestion that this might be a good be a "good day to bury bad news", given that media attention is focused on Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt's appearance before the Leveson inquiry.
There will be no limit - as existed before the Budget - on what an individual can donate to charity and offset against their tax liability.
A spokesman said the Treasury had listened to the views of charities.
It is the latest in a series of U-turns on policies announced in the Budget, including the pasty and caravan taxes.
Mr Osborne said: "I can confirm that we will proceed next year with a cap on income tax reliefs for wealthy people, but we won't be capping relief for giving money to charity.
"It is clear from our conversations with charities that any kind cap could damage donations, and as I said at the Budget that's not what we want at all. So we've listened.
"Frankly, at a time like this the government is going to focus on the big issues like the worsening eurozone crisis and Britain's deficit, and not get distracted with unnecessary arguments. We're going to concentrate our efforts on what really matters: keeping Britain safe in the gathering storm."
The consultation on how a cap would be imposed on the other tax relief measures will continue this summer.
A government spokesman said they had been clear that the uncertainty caused by the proposed cap on charitable reliefs created a risk to the charitable sector and in light of this they had decided to exempt charitable reliefs from the cap.
The Treasury will write to the charitable sector confirming the new position later.
The spokesman declined to comment on the suggestion that this might be a good be a "good day to bury bad news", given that media attention is focused on Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt's appearance before the Leveson inquiry.
31 May 2012, 01:52 PM
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imo its all because of the money involved
its down to greed/power
if every politican started at 35k maybe worked up to a max 80k and pm had extra 20k ontop.
adjust figures as you may wish, but the aim would be to just have the josteling at the top to be about wanting to do the job only, not amount masses of personal wealth.
plus no extra income for jobs on the side/companies ect ect ect while in power and maybe after for some time?
the aim is to have people that are only focused on doing there job, representing the people theyve chosen to. they get reasonable recompense to lead a comfortable lifestyle.
its down to greed/power
if every politican started at 35k maybe worked up to a max 80k and pm had extra 20k ontop.
adjust figures as you may wish, but the aim would be to just have the josteling at the top to be about wanting to do the job only, not amount masses of personal wealth.
plus no extra income for jobs on the side/companies ect ect ect while in power and maybe after for some time?
the aim is to have people that are only focused on doing there job, representing the people theyve chosen to. they get reasonable recompense to lead a comfortable lifestyle.