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Old 27 February 2012, 05:13 PM
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It's caused a big furor.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ine-cover.html

Old 27 February 2012, 05:19 PM
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Would it be, if it was the other way round? No
Old 27 February 2012, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
Would it be, if it was the other way round? No
racism has gone full circle now,for instance radio one have a black music channel.
imagine if i opened up a white music channel....
Old 27 February 2012, 05:37 PM
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What am I looking at? Don't see anything racist?
Old 27 February 2012, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
What am I looking at? Don't see anything racist?
+1
Old 27 February 2012, 05:43 PM
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Christ, that's pathetic.
Old 27 February 2012, 05:49 PM
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The world has gone mad!

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Old 27 February 2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
What am I looking at? Don't see anything racist?
+2?
Old 27 February 2012, 05:54 PM
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It's funny 'cos almost every TV advert for sofas now has an interracial couple (normally black guy, white woman of course) but a magazine with a 'white' woman and black women is kind of taboo? So we still have some taboos about inter-racial interaction.

I suppose the magazine presents the white woman as a kind of beatific Aphrodite figure with the black women gazing at her with wonder and reverence or something, and they are half anonymous in the dark background? I can see how it might provoke accusations of racism, it's bad taste if anything?

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Quite frankly that picture sickens me..........










Far too many clothes on

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Old 27 February 2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Quite frankly that picture sickens me..........










Far too many clothes on

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Old 27 February 2012, 06:15 PM
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Lol, of course it's racist. Positively choosing colour coded women means you're race specific.
Old 27 February 2012, 06:17 PM
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That's some belly button there !
Old 27 February 2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
Lol, of course it's racist. Positively choosing colour coded women means you're race specific.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
Old 27 February 2012, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
Lol, of course it's racist. Positively choosing colour coded women means you're race specific.
It could be an aesthetic choice.
Old 27 February 2012, 06:26 PM
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The picture isn`t the "problem" its the comment underneath about "Stepping out of the shadows", and the suggestion the black ladies are the "shadows".

I do think that the whole pc brigade is so far up its own *** it can see out again, the whole thing is out of control. Surely its our differences that make us unique, and by highlighting these so called "racist" incidents, its makes the problem worse. If the people just got on with it, and only got annoyed when something really happened, then things would improve.

The whole world needs to grow the F*** up!!

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Old 27 February 2012, 06:29 PM
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i should qualify, that racist to me is positively isolating one race from another. i didn't find the cover offensive, but they've obviously done it on purpose.
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Three black models surrounding a fair coloured model with the caption: "Bela Padilla stepping out of the shadows."

Bela Padilla clarifies: "The concept was stepping out of MY inhibitions, MY fears, MY shadows. Not bashing a certain race."

Who artistically represented Bela's inhibitions, her fears, and her shadows in the photo, I wonder? People who complained might have believed that the black half-nakkid ladies were used to represent her inhibitions, her fears and the shadow. In that sense, one can see where the moaners are coming from. Not that I give a ****!

On the other hand, I think the moaners need to look at the picture differently. They need to get their head around the other possibility that the 3 half-nekkid ladies could be the friends, guides, and philosophers to the fair skinned half-nakkid lady, and they are the ones to encourage her to step out of her silly inhibitions and fears. How good of them!This makes the black race very empowering instead.
Old 27 February 2012, 06:34 PM
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Intellectual thought of the day:-

It's all a load of complete bollox.

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Old 27 February 2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
i should qualify, that racist to me is positively isolating one race from another. i didn't find the cover offensive, but they've obviously done it on purpose.
That's not racism. That's making a conscious choice to select models of a certain colour for effect. It doesn't imply a judgement on the merits of those colours/races.

I think the 'stepping out of the shadows' theme could have been thought through a bit better. That, to me, is a bit close to the bone considering how touchy some people are. In the practical sense it would have been better not to bother.

On the other hand it is a lot of publicity for FHM: a magazine with a target readership who mainly couldn't give a sh*t about this kind of thing and who might even be encouraged to buy it on the back of this ballsy move, perceiving it as a haven from liberal wimps.
Old 27 February 2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Three black models surrounding a fair coloured model with the caption: "Bela Padilla stepping out of the shadows."

Bela Padilla clarifies: "The concept was stepping out of MY inhibitions, MY fears, MY shadows. Not bashing a certain race."

Who artistically represented Bela's inhibitions, her fears, and her shadows in the photo, I wonder? People who complained might have believed that the black half-nakkid ladies were used to represent her inhibitions, her fears and the shadow. In that sense, one can see where the moaners are coming from. Not that I give a ****!

On the other hand, I think the moaners need to look at the picture differently. They need to get their head around the other possibility that the 3 half-nekkid ladies could be the friends, guides, and philosophers to the fair skinned half-nakkid lady, and they are the ones to encourage her to step out of her silly inhibitions and fears. How good of them!This makes the black race very empowering instead.
It took a lady to give a thoughtful, balanced and articulate view of what the cover may be portraying. Us blokes can't see past the nakedness
I don't consider it racist I do consider it clever marketing though.
Old 27 February 2012, 06:52 PM
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Mobo awards........ how about the wowo awards, you know that wouldnt be allowed
Old 27 February 2012, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
It took a lady to give a thoughtful, balanced and articulate view of what the cover may be portraying. Us blokes can't see past the nakedness
I don't consider it racist I do consider it clever marketing though.
Hello, Maz!

Nothing wrong with you men being so and at the nekkidness. Whatever makes one happy, innit?
Old 27 February 2012, 07:10 PM
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What's racist about four bitches in bikinis?

Was that sexist?
Old 27 February 2012, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
racism has gone full circle now,for instance radio one have a black music channel.
imagine if i opened up a white music channel....
I just happened to say this the other day at work!!
Old 27 February 2012, 08:12 PM
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another one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ed-remark.html
Old 27 February 2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Three black models surrounding a fair coloured model with the caption: "Bela Padilla stepping out of the shadows."

Bela Padilla clarifies: "The concept was stepping out of MY inhibitions, MY fears, MY shadows. Not bashing a certain race."

Who artistically represented Bela's inhibitions, her fears, and her shadows in the photo, I wonder? People who complained might have believed that the black half-nakkid ladies were used to represent her inhibitions, her fears and the shadow. In that sense, one can see where the moaners are coming from. Not that I give a ****!

On the other hand, I think the moaners need to look at the picture differently. They need to get their head around the other possibility that the 3 half-nekkid ladies could be the friends, guides, and philosophers to the fair skinned half-nakkid lady, and they are the ones to encourage her to step out of her silly inhibitions and fears. How good of them!This makes the black race very empowering instead.
Or it could just be about putting hot totty on the front of a lads mag.

Anyway I didn't see that caption and see your point, perhaps artistically it is a bit literal anyway?

I remember reading how Jung said the black man/woman represented a different archetype in the psyche that a white man/women. The black archetype represents animal instincts, base desires etc, the white archtype of more civilized, controlled desires so inhibition.

Having had a dream specifically involving a black women once, I am wondering if Jung is right and our minds are subconsciously racist?
Old 27 February 2012, 08:20 PM
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I think the picture is beautiful.
It's very clever the way it is worded too. Nothing remotely racist about it
Old 27 February 2012, 08:22 PM
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There are actually 5 cover ladies in total. I spotted two more sitting near Ms. Bela's feet.
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pathetic.


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