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Old 25 January 2012, 11:07 AM
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Default Anyone else use an anti SAD light?

Do you find it works?
Wife has bought me one, since my moods are all over the place, mostly black, during the dark season.

I just wondered if I can REALLY expect any changes for her outlay?
Old 25 January 2012, 11:31 AM
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I would be interested in this as well.

I was listening to the Naked Scientist podcast this morning and they were talking about how most of us will be deficient in vitamin D at this time of year, which they think can bring on some pretty terrible health conditions.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Do you find it works?
Wife has bought me one, since my moods are all over the place, mostly black, during the dark season.

I just wondered if I can REALLY expect any changes for her outlay?
i have a large amethyst stone with a light inside , similar to a
sun lamp, same effect, for the old man and like you moods all over the place, he find's it dose work as do i.
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I'd be intested to know; As I'm condering replacing half of the flourescent tubes in our office for these:

http://www.lamps2udirect.com/pages/f...light-Tube/374

I replaced all the orignal "cool white" tubes about a year back as they were nearly ten years old and well past their half-life (time it takes to get to half brightness), but the trade counter only had normal white tubes. Still, they way brighter than the old worn-out tubes, but now after a year of use it doesn't seem as bright and I wondering if the colour temperature of the tubes is having an effect on the "karma" in the office, bearing in mind the only natural light is through two small windows with slatted blinds.

Edit; I don't think it can help with vitamin D3 production though as all flourescent tubes have UVA and UVB filters...unless they are sunbed tubes, growth/aquarium lights or Ultra Violet lamps....I was also looking into this as the one member of staff in our office has Osteoporsis. But I don't think H&S would approve of me fitting sunbed tubes in the light fittigs

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Edit; I don't think it can help with vitamin D3 production though as all flourescent tubes have UVA and UVB filters...unless they are sunbed tubes or Ultra Violet lamps....I was also looking into this as the one member of staff in our office has Osteoporsis. But I don't think H&S would approve of me fitting sunbed tubes in the light fittigs
Ah well, how do these things actually work then, would it not be as good to shine an LED torch into your eyes a few times a day?
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If you turn on an anti sad light does it remove rally graphics off subarus ?
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Ah well, how do these things actually work then, would it not be as good to shine an LED torch into your eyes a few times a day?
I don't know, thats what I'm reallly trying to find out. Does the light need to give off UVB radiation or not? All I know is most tubes have UVB filters.

Maybe the desktop jobbies have lesser filters or something.

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"Since full-spectrum bulbs are designed to include ultraviolet light, which might contribute to cataract formation and skin problems, it is best to avoid such light at high intensity unless it has been carefully filtered for UV"

I'm out
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my mother r.i.p had one, in my ignorant youth i just thought it was a bit of daft nonsense tbh.

and probably now im of similar thought if im honest.

altho im sure she felt some benefit from it, so if it floats your boat , then why not. even placebo effect of these types of things can have an enormous effect if people let them - and certainley no harm done.
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Big pictures of ***** everywhere should have the same effect...wife agreeing dependant.

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Old 25 January 2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jef
my mother r.i.p had one, in my ignorant youth i just thought it was a bit of daft nonsense tbh.

and probably now im of similar thought if im honest.

altho im sure she felt some benefit from it, so if it floats your boat , then why not. even placebo effect of these types of things can have an enormous effect if people let them - and certainley no harm done.
Have you actually looked at the biochemistry or are just going with your instincts, a gut feeling, a stab in the dark, despite decades of research which produced vast quantities of data being freely available for your digestion? Fùcking baffling.
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The booklet that came with it stated that MOST uv is filtered out.
You don't sit and stare into it, they tell you NOT to do that...and who could for two hours daily?
Mine is sat on the side of my computer table here as I type, and has been on since around 11am.
IF they gave out mahoosive quantities of UV, then people would get suntan from them. You don't.
I know this one gives a small amount, since my lad's diabolo string was MILDLY fluorescing last night under the light. Just enough to see. Placed under a uv light it goes daft.
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Yeah, it was a questionable source at best

Would you say you feel any better about yourself after a few hours use?
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I'll tell you next week. They say an hour to two hours daily for 4-5 days and I should start to feel better.
I have it on again now;(
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All you need is me for a couple of hours daily

But in all seriousness these lights do seem to work and have an impact on those what use them for postive outcomes.

Quick question: Have you personally noticed how any mood your in changes when you hold or play with Isaac at mine or your house? Me and Nat noticed yesterday. Either it helps for a little bit or you're a bloody good liar and putting a face on. I remember even seeing a smile or two yesterday mate
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Been looking at this for her indoors as well,

I looked here

http://www.sad.uk.com/?gclid=CNXQ6dzL660CFSgntAodPFCu6Q

and here

http://www.sada.org.uk/


Lamps vary from cheap to uber expensive

big outlay for a lamp lol

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20 mins outside every day in natural daylight is supposed to be effective.

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Andy: yes kids are a natural depression lifter, apparently.

WHEN they are behaving.

Otherwise, it's DEFINITELY the exact opposite!

I also have been bought "The Depression Cure", by Dr. Steven Ilardi, which I am trying to read. Heavy going.
Also doing some Pure Maths as revision as something light to read compared .

NOT a joke, btw
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
20 mins outside every day in natural daylight is supposed to be effective.
True, but only in sunlight. In cloudy conditions you can easily extend that to a couple of hours, which I don't want to spend outside in present temperatures, and can't exercise due to sciatica...
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Do you find it works?
Wife has bought me one, since my moods are all over the place, mostly black, during the dark season.

I just wondered if I can REALLY expect any changes for her outlay?
I feckin hope so , it might stop you moaning for 5 minutes
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Me? Moan?

You misunderstand me, mate
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Has anyone tried meditation? My better half has persuaded me to try it, my dad says it works wonders.
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I find cocaine, a bottle of DP and a good, hard **** does wonders.

ETA: Sorry, forgot about your back.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I find cocaine, a bottle of DP and a good, hard **** does wonders.

ETA: Sorry, forgot about your back.
Sorry, but i really shouldn't...
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We have one, well I think it's the same thing.

I used to find with winter - the dark mornings and dark evenings was a nightmare getting to and waking up. When I finally woke up I would feel rubbish....

With this light it comes on half an hour before I want to wake up very faintly and then brighter and finnaly to a brightness we set - normally MAX hot sunny day mode..

I have to say it does make waking up easier. and worth the £46.00
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That sounds a goood idea. Mine is straight on/off......but cost £120 from Amazon.
Hope it's not Snake Oil for that price
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Do you find it works?
I tried anti SAD light a long time ago when winter used to get me down quite badly. I didn't find it as effective TBH. It could be because my need for sunlight and warmth is comparitively much higher due to me coming from one of the sunniest and the hottest parts of the world. My solution was to change all the light bulbs around the house to 100W, keep them on as long as possible, keep heating on full blast most times, and go on the exercise bike more often. Three of them in combination worked for me. Anyhow, you should give the anti SAD light a try IMO.


Originally Posted by JTaylor
I find cocaine, a bottle of DP and a good, hard **** does wonders..........
Now that^ is the advice of the season! FPMSL!
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Have you actually looked at the biochemistry or are just going with your instincts, a gut feeling, a stab in the dark, despite decades of research which produced vast quantities of data being freely available for your digestion? Fùcking baffling.
im going by my own experiences.

im not affected by this condition atall, so this light would have sweet fck all difference to me. so in my current position in life there a complete load of rubbish (to me)

for others it may work - as per my origional post?

whats so difficult to understand about that?
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Originally Posted by jef
im going by my own experiences.

im not affected by this condition atall, so this light would have sweet fck all difference to me. so in my current position in life there a complete load of rubbish (to me)

for others it may work - as per my origional post?

whats so difficult to understand about that?
Because you attributed its effect to a placebo and admitted arriving at that conclusion via guess work and now attest that it makes no difference to you anyway. So what's baffling is the exact point of and motive behind your 'contribution'. You'd have been better off recommending steroid use and an Oomp-Loompa tan whilst evoking pseudo-science to give it a cloak of credibility. I think its perfectly clear to any sound reader that the very best cure for winter blues is my suggestion of class-a drugs, decent plonk and, health permitting, a rigorous ****. Are we agreed, Jef?
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This **** would appear to be rigorous: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sha...1t:429,r:0,s:0


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