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Old 22 January 2012, 09:59 PM
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is it legal to tow a car with a bar not a rope to a garage for work? The towed car not taxed or tested.
Old 22 January 2012, 10:01 PM
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I think if it has no road tax, it must be on atrailer/ Ring DVLC and they will tell you.

But yes, you can use a bar, why not? They are sold over the counter.
Old 22 January 2012, 10:02 PM
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everybody seems to say different its about 18 mile
Old 22 January 2012, 10:50 PM
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If it's not taxed you can't even park it on the road let alone tow it. You need to trailer it to be legal.
Old 23 January 2012, 12:08 AM
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The only way an untaxed vehicle can have wheels on the public highway is if it's on the way to, or from, a pre-booked MOT test, and even then it must be insured.
Old 23 January 2012, 12:14 AM
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On the original question, yes towing with a bar is perfectly legal, the AA and the RAC do it all the time

It's a little unnerving for the towee the first time though
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
On the original question, yes towing with a bar is perfectly legal, the AA and the RAC do it all the time

It's a little unnerving for the towee the first time though
It is when you`re in a Capri being towed at 60mph by a Range Rover
Old 23 January 2012, 10:28 AM
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From The DVLA website;

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...Mot/DG_4022108

"It is generally an offence to use on a public road, a vehicle of testable age that doesn’t have a current test certificate, except when:
taking it to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance
bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the MOT test, to a place of repair
taking it to a place, by previous arrangement, where problems that caused the vehicle to fail its MOT test, can be repaired
bringing it away from a place where the problems with the vehicle have been repaired
Even in the above circumstances you may still be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy vehicle if it doesn’t comply with various regulations affecting its construction and use. Your car insurance may also be invalid.
The police can ask to see an MOT certificate for a vehicle that needs to have one. They also have access to the computerised records of MOT test results and can tell if the MOT certificate for your vehicle has expired.
It is your responsibility as the vehicle owner to ensure that the due MOT test is carried out in time."


I think that as long as its booked in for a repair or MoT and you're not travelling too far you should be ok.
Old 23 January 2012, 11:23 AM
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I would have though using a bar was safer anyway.

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Old 23 January 2012, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rescue Dude
From The DVLA website;

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...Mot/DG_4022108

"It is generally an offence to use on a public road, a vehicle of testable age that doesn’t have a current test certificate, except when:
taking it to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance
bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the MOT test, to a place of repair
taking it to a place, by previous arrangement, where problems that caused the vehicle to fail its MOT test, can be repaired
bringing it away from a place where the problems with the vehicle have been repaired
Even in the above circumstances you may still be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy vehicle if it doesn’t comply with various regulations affecting its construction and use. Your car insurance may also be invalid.
The police can ask to see an MOT certificate for a vehicle that needs to have one. They also have access to the computerised records of MOT test results and can tell if the MOT certificate for your vehicle has expired.
It is your responsibility as the vehicle owner to ensure that the due MOT test is carried out in time."


I think that as long as its booked in for a repair or MoT and you're not travelling too far you should be ok.
That info is relevant to driving the car not towing it
Old 23 January 2012, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mollymoo666
That info is relevant to driving the car not towing it
Its relevant if the car is being towed because the car is on the road and not on a trailer.
Old 23 January 2012, 11:58 AM
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How do you insure it if it hasn't got an MOT? dl


Edit - sorry ignore that as I was thinking taxing not insuring!

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You can, you just don't tell them....and yes, it WOULD be illegal and probably ivalidate the insurance.

Buying tax is another question though....
Old 23 January 2012, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rescue Dude
Its relevant if the car is being towed because the car is on the road and not on a trailer.
Still not relevant from the OP's first post though.

Car is not taxed and therefore, not allowed on the road. You've quoted for no MOT.

The rules might be changing on bars/dollys too.

Basically to stop people towing behind camper vans. Extra lights etc needed and potentially braking for the car being towed was the last discussion I saw on it.

I summary - bar ok but towing a car with no tax not ok.

5t.
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No - both "drivers" would be breaking the law in this instance.
Get a trailer.

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Originally Posted by fivetide
Still not relevant from the OP's first post though.

Car is not taxed and therefore, not allowed on the road. You've quoted for no MOT.

The rules might be changing on bars/dollys too.

Basically to stop people towing behind camper vans. Extra lights etc needed and potentially braking for the car being towed was the last discussion I saw on it.

I summary - bar ok but towing a car with no tax not ok.

5t.
Its not MoT'd either.

I worked at a hire place and we hired trailers out.

The law is a bit vague but basically if its not road legal NONE of the wheels can be on the ground when its being moved unless the car is 100% road legal. This is the same for dolly's.
I don't know if its being taken for a repair after an MoT fail as the op hasn't said so thats why I quoted the rules for repair after an MoT or retest.
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