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Old 20 November 2011, 03:51 PM
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Thumbs up Wind farms are useless, says Duke of Edinburgh

The Duke of Edinburgh has made a fierce attack on wind farms, describing them as “absolutely useless”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...says-Duke.html
Old 20 November 2011, 04:06 PM
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Love it. Old people are ace.
Old 20 November 2011, 04:20 PM
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The man is a legend.

Future quote to be expected in the near future --->

"Reduce co2? Well, stop breathing then".


He has a point though...if they worked properly, they wouldn't need subsidies, would they?

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Old 20 November 2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
The man is a legend.
+1. He's a character!
Old 20 November 2011, 04:27 PM
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And this really helps our economy:
Two-thirds of the country’s wind turbines are owned by foreign companies, which are estimated to reap Ł500million a year in subsidies
Thats another Ł500m sent abroad then (less taxes and minimal UK employment)
Old 20 November 2011, 04:45 PM
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He speaks the truth in many respects, well at least when the wind is not blowing anyway. You know, those really cold winters days when you really need them.
Old 20 November 2011, 05:06 PM
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Usually what comes out of his mouth is complete sh!te, but on this occasion I agree with him on this! Wind energy is just a lot of hot air. Nuclear is the way to go.

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Old 20 November 2011, 05:26 PM
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Old 20 November 2011, 05:35 PM
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I think we should all stop and listen when an expert speaks out
Old 20 November 2011, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I think we should all stop and listen when an expert speaks out
How does the far left view the Duke's opinion?
Old 20 November 2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I think we should all stop and listen when an expert speaks out
Which is why you get put on ignore
Old 20 November 2011, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I think we should all stop and listen when an expert speaks out

Unfortunately I heard a climate scientist say he got his OBE/MBE for slanting his report in favour of the governments policy.
Old 20 November 2011, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Which is why you get put on ignore
Eh?
Old 20 November 2011, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
Unfortunately I heard a climate scientist say he got his OBE/MBE for slanting his report in favour of the governments policy.
I don't even know what the governments policy is. They seem to be all over the place on this.
Old 20 November 2011, 06:08 PM
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Like he is really qualified to comment. Silly old sod.

"Well dammit man you should see the mess they make of my poor little grouse. Those little chaps expect me to shoot 'em, not get obliterated while they are going about their business".

I'd surround Balmoral with them if I could

IMHO wind farms will be made cost effective but it will take a few years. I suspect there is a lot of expensive over-engineering involved at present.

dl
Old 20 November 2011, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I think we should all stop and listen when an expert speaks out

Like the ones who make profit out of it.
Old 20 November 2011, 06:36 PM
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They look a bloody mess on the landscape,have you seen how many are being erected if you drive along the M74 Scotland,Loads of the *******.
Even the odd few as you drive along the E40 from calais towards Brussels don't look that much of a mess,they do paint the bottom of them green to try and blend in a bit...
Old 20 November 2011, 06:45 PM
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because of the gearhead/ gearbox arrangement they are only approx 30% efficent 30% of the time . oh and when the wind does blow to much . as per scotland they have to turnr them off if the grid doesnt need it . and they get paid to do that as well .so the old git is right on this one . tidal is the way forward . south west from lynton to avonmouth has massive tidal energy just waiting to be harnessed twice a day every day 6-8nott tides. some times when fishing a 1lb weight will just dissapear into the distance on the tide . turbines in long funnels on the sea bed is the way forward not bloody great propellors
Old 20 November 2011, 06:46 PM
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like everyone he gets somethings right and some wrong


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Old 20 November 2011, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Like the ones who make profit out of it.
I don't remember you amplifying any of their propagenda though
Old 20 November 2011, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
because of the gearhead/ gearbox arrangement they are only approx 30% efficent 30% of the time . oh and when the wind does blow to much . as per scotland they have to turnr them off if the grid doesnt need it . and they get paid to do that as well .so the old git is right on this one . tidal is the way forward . south west from lynton to avonmouth has massive tidal energy just waiting to be harnessed twice a day every day 6-8nott tides. some times when fishing a 1lb weight will just dissapear into the distance on the tide . turbines in long funnels on the sea bed is the way forward not bloody great propellors
I agree tidal need to be reseached alot more as well as wave power. Ignoring this and sticking wind turbines off shore is utterly barmy.

Best solution I've seen is Oscillating Water Columns. You know all of those ugly storm breaks they put in round everywhere ? Replace them with these! It wouldn't look any different (big concrete mess), give storm defences and generate power 24/7!

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Old 20 November 2011, 07:56 PM
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Well according on my "UK grid carbon intensity" app, wind is right now producing 820MW out of 5000+MW installed capacity. Which suggests that the old boy is really quite right!
Old 20 November 2011, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
IMHO wind farms will be made cost effective but it will take a few years. I suspect there is a lot of expensive over-engineering involved at present.

dl
It will never be cost effective especially when you consider that you also have to build a fossil fuelled or nuclear powerstation along side a wind farm for when the wind is not blowing. Bare in mind that these powerstations also have to be constantly running too even when the wind is generating.
Old 20 November 2011, 08:42 PM
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Once again the Duke is bang on the money

How is it environmentally sound to strip mine vast swathes of the planet to extract the materials need to build wind turbines, with the toxic by-products leaving thousands of miles of rivers completely incapable of sustaining any form of life

Then at the end of all that, you end up with something that is somewhat less than 25% efficient, completely incapable of working on demand, and needing to be switched off when it gets 'too windy' :

Thank God for us taxpayers, where would the climate change bullsh!tters be without the subsidies we provide them with
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If we all hold our breath for 10seconds we will reduce the c02 out put and burn more coal!
Old 20 November 2011, 10:13 PM
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CrisPDuk is right.

tidal is the only sensiable green power for us as a country.

who wants nuclear after Japan!

remove subsidies and green taxes which will slash our bills
Old 20 November 2011, 10:53 PM
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Well I want nuclear. The chance of massive earthquake + tsunami is really quite minimal in Europe. Btw wind is up to a massive 840MW. Somewhat short of nuclear at 6400MW.
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Nuclear is the way to go. I mean why invest time and money in a technology like wind power when at any time one of those wind turbines could cut loose and make a big dent in the ground and possibly even kill a sheep or two. Far better to go the route of nice shiny cheap to build and run nuclear power plants that are 100% safe and not in any way a terrorist target either
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Well I want nuclear. The chance of massive earthquake + tsunami is really quite minimal in Europe. Btw wind is up to a massive 840MW. Somewhat short of nuclear at 6400MW.
agreed b&crap have installed a turbine on there new site most of the time 80+% its turned off and even when running couldnt generate enough energy to keep there lights on they are just pandering to greenies what a joke


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