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Old 27 October 2011, 09:22 PM
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I'm watching this and getting quite peed off. WTF have isn't this system being reformed? Jobshy layabouts sitting around their laminated floored, plasma festooned paid for houses moan and gripe about not getting enough benefits. One mangey bint with 7 kids was moaning on about the minimum wage not being enough. These ***** need a good kick up their ****. I'd have a maximum of 2 years on benefits in a LIFETIME only after you've paid your national insurance for at least 5 years.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:28 PM
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It needs shaking up, that's for sure.

The uncaring Tories are the ones to do it, if anyone is!

Work for your benefits is what I would advocate ..... community work, sweep the streets, clear the elderlies gardens ... etc.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:31 PM
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Put BBC2 on now, it's a bloody joke!
Old 27 October 2011, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
It needs shaking up, that's for sure.

The uncaring Tories are the ones to do it, if anyone is!

Work for your benefits is what I would advocate ..... community work, sweep the streets, clear the elderlies gardens ... etc.
I heard the evil tories are going to melt down the long term unemployed and use them to fuel power stations
Old 27 October 2011, 09:33 PM
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..and they need to sort out the benefit tourists from the continent too; the money they take does not go back into our economy but sent back to whatever country they came from.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:36 PM
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I'd imagine the vast bulk of cash is going to UK born morons.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I'd imagine the vast bulk of cash is going to UK born morons.

Like Edwardo the cleaner who despite being here 2 years cannot even speak a word of English.

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Old 27 October 2011, 09:43 PM
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And having a FOUR Bedroom house in London - paid for by US!!!
Old 27 October 2011, 09:47 PM
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PMSL!

Saw this on the tv guide as we were going out and the GF said to record it and I said what for as it will only wind us up
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Originally Posted by foxarm
Like Edwardo the cleaner who despite being here 2 years cannot even speak a word of English.
At least he is working unlike some of the indigenous people in this country who it seems just keep spouting some lame excuses for not working.
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Originally Posted by foxarm
Like Edwardo the cleaner who despite being here 2 years cannot even speak a word of English.
Of course there's a ton of foreigners here milking the system. The vast bulk of cash is still paid to utter morons paid to people being born here. The reason there are so many foreigners are here is a direct result of the welfare system and the disincentive for UK born people to get work.

Stop benefits and you'll see Wayne and Tracey fall over themselves getting minimum wage cleaning jobs and perhaps not having 7 kids.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
It needs shaking up, that's for sure.
Work for your benefits is what I would advocate ..... community work, sweep the streets, clear the elderlies gardens ... etc.
MY GOD!!


This is TWO things I have agreed with you on now, I really need to lay down!!

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Old 27 October 2011, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

The uncaring Tories are the ones to do it, if anyone is!

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Well your heroes certainly didn't have the ***** to do it did they.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbob
MY GOD!!


This is TWO things I have agreed with you on now, I really need to lay down!!
You need help ..... you are a sick man ... SICK!!!

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Originally Posted by Chip
Well your heroes certainly didn't have the ***** to do it did they.
They were lifting children out of poverty, they were buikding schools, hospitals and looking after the old.

There was money when NL were doing it .... we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
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Originally Posted by jonc
At least he is working unlike some of the indigenous people in this country who it seems just keep spouting some lame excuses for not working.

Yes and because he likes to live in islington he is more of a drain than a unemployed family on the outskirts of London. Heres a free tip for Edwardo. Learn some English and maybe you can manage to find a job in Mechanical Engineering.

If the government paid me £2400 a month housing benefit here. I'd jack my job in and work for £3 an hour and could live in a 5 bedroom house with swimming pool.
Old 27 October 2011, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

There was money when NL were doing it .... we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
lol you never let up do you Pete.
Old 27 October 2011, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
Yes and because he likes to live in islington he is more of a drain than a unemployed family on the outskirts of London. Heres a free tip for Edwardo. Learn some English and maybe you can manage to find a job in Mechanical Engineering.

If the government paid me £2400 a month housing benefit here. I'd jack my job in and work for £3 an hour and could live in a 5 bedroom house with swimming pool.
May be so, but the problem is, who is going to pay for the hour plus commute from outside of London to do a low paid cleaning job? Would you commute into London for a £3/hr cleaning job? London still needs cleaners.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
There was money when NL were doing it
Hmmm nice few credit cards and a loan from Ocean Finance.

Originally Posted by pslewis
we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
Wow, you really believe that??
Old 27 October 2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
They were lifting children out of poverty, they were buikding schools, hospitals and looking after the old.

There was money when NL were doing it .... we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
You need a conservative government to pay for a labour government

For us in work complaining what happens if we find ourselves unemployed and no benefit system to help us. There is an issue being able to judge those who deserve and those that dont. Those that dont and have squad of kids, what do you do with them?
Old 28 October 2011, 08:42 AM
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I think I'm right in saying that a lot of these PFI hospitals and schools are now going to the wall because they cannot support/maintain their debt. good ole labour.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
They were lifting children out of poverty, they were buikding schools, hospitals and looking after the old.

There was money when NL were doing it .... we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
I have to hand it to you Pete.

You are pretty good at trying to twist it aren't you?

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Originally Posted by pslewis
They were lifting children out of poverty, they were buikding schools, hospitals and looking after the old.

There was money when NL were doing it .... we are in a complete Tory mess now so need cuts to see us through.
Old 29 October 2011, 08:11 AM
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I really shouldn't watch programmes like this because they just remind me where half my hard earned goes.

The pleb who said he wasn't prepared to work because he wanted to spend time with his kids instead! The the rest of us go to work and don't see our kids so he can, and a great example he'll be to his kids as well!

The presenter really did get to the underlying issue though and that is the UK sense of 'entitlement'. People here have it ingrained in them that they are entitled to a house and money, it is their birthright.

This needs to be stopped, if (a big if) IDS can sort this problem out, in my opinion he will go down as the most important and progressive UK politician of recent times.
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Good assessment.

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