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Old 27 October 2011, 08:03 PM
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.................another property boom. All these people paying daft rents, only because they cant afford a deposit. When the 100% mortgage comes back, rental values will sink like a stone as everyone moves back to ownership (and house prices will rise again).

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Old 27 October 2011, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
.................another property boom. All these people paying daft rents, only because they cant afford a deposit. When the 100% mortgage comes back, rental values will sink like a stone as everyone moves back to ownership (and house prices will rise again).

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We won't be seeing 100% mortgages again for a long long time
Old 27 October 2011, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2


We won't be seeing 100% mortgages again for a long long time
If ever!

A lad i used to work with had a 110% morgage
Old 27 October 2011, 08:43 PM
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https://www.clickngomortgages.co.uk/...gage-deals.asp

And another, but could be risky for a relative!
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...-mortgage.html

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Originally Posted by g7prs
If ever!

A lad i used to work with had a 110% morgage
My mate had a 110% mortgage.... paid his Vauxhall Corsa off with it. He couldn't understand why it was a bad idea to pay his car off with a 25 year loan

2 years later, his house was repossessed.
Old 27 October 2011, 08:46 PM
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Seeing as the last blog post on that site was 2009, i'd say they have either gone bust or just not updated the website.

I'm pretty sure there are no 100% products on the market
Old 27 October 2011, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
Seeing as the last blog post on that site was 2009, i'd say they have either gone bust or just not updated the website.

I'm pretty sure there are no 100% products on the market
Good point - I didn't read the blogs.....

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Originally Posted by zip106
That second one is not a 100% mortgage, its a 75% mortgage with 25% secured on a relatives house.
Old 27 October 2011, 08:52 PM
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But the lender still provides 100% of the purchase price with a 25% guarantor.
Therefore, in essence, it's a 100% mortgage.


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Originally Posted by mamoon2
My mate had a 110% mortgage.... paid his Vauxhall Corsa off with it. He couldn't understand why it was a bad idea to pay his car off with a 25 year loan

2 years later, his house was repossessed.
Did he lose his car?
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Originally Posted by mamoon2


We won't be seeing 100% mortgages again for a long long time
Dont you believe it. They will be back, but maybe renamed and repackaged, but they will return. The demand is there.
Old 27 October 2011, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
That second one is not a 100% mortgage, its a 75% mortgage with 25% secured on a relatives house.
Exactly what i said, tweaked a bit, but a buyer can buy a house with a loan for 100% of the asking price. The 100% mortgage is back........
Old 27 October 2011, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulC72
Did he lose his car?
No because it was not secured against the loan. In essence he could use the extra 10% for whatever he wanted
Old 27 October 2011, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
.................another property boom. All these people paying daft rents, only because they cant afford a deposit. When the 100% mortgage comes back, rental values will sink like a stone as everyone moves back to ownership (and house prices will rise again).

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Old 27 October 2011, 09:38 PM
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We won 25k last yr n still not enough for deposit on a house. Needed 37k.
Have a friend who has 100s of houses n get dodge mortgages but not even he can get me a 100%.
do hope one day they do come back as what I pay in rent I cld have a massive house
Old 27 October 2011, 09:39 PM
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House prices currently have a floor of a 7% yield - these are the FTB houses (which are also the BTL houses!).

In essence, all you do is take the monthly rental for, say, a 2 bedroom house in your area ... when this is 7% of the house price, you have hit the floor.

This floor is still way above what the FTB can afford ... and this floor is raised each time rents are raised .......... renters are effectively pricing themselves out of ever owning a home for themselves, doomed to buy anothers house for them.
Old 27 October 2011, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
House prices currently have a floor of a 7% yield - these are the FTB houses (which are also the BTL houses!).

In essence, all you do is take the monthly rental for, say, a 2 bedroom house in your area ... when this is 7% of the house price, you have hit the floor.

This floor is still way above what the FTB can afford ... and this floor is raised each time rents are raised .......... renters are effectively pricing themselves out of ever owning a home for themselves, doomed to buy anothers house for them.
My latest is 10% yield
Old 27 October 2011, 09:45 PM
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Yes ... but 7% is the minimum that it's worth buying for ... and that gives a floor to prices.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Yes ... but 7% is the minimum that it's worth buying for ... and that gives a floor to prices.
I knew what you meant. I just wanted to boast
Old 27 October 2011, 09:46 PM
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There are a number of 100% morgages but only for first time buyers and you need to have a guarantor to sign the contract for a 5-10 year term (they have to own their own home). and the rates arent bad either. I do agree though the rental market has become a joke! houses a year ago that were going for 800pcm have now gone to 995pcm! A estate agent told me its because the land loards can up the rent due to high demand!
Old 27 October 2011, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
I knew what you meant. I just wanted to boast
I knew what you meant. I just wanted to wind you up
Old 27 October 2011, 10:20 PM
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I hope to have most of my debt wiped out in 2 years time after which I will start to save for a house. It would be really nice for me if 100% mortgages came back in but I'm pretty much settled on the fact that its a privilege to own your own home, one privilege that I let slip through my fingers by being greedy with the ol' buy now pay later frame of mind.
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A guy I work with is just in the process of taking out a mortgage. He was quite happy that they're allowing him 5 x his salary. Yes, we've told him.
Old 27 October 2011, 10:26 PM
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iv just pait a 25% down payment couldnt get nothing lower then 25% where never goin to see the 100% mortgage
Old 27 October 2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg
A guy I work with is just in the process of taking out a mortgage. He was quite happy that they're allowing him 5 x his salary. Yes, we've told him.
The payments may well be less than the alternative rent - he is making a commitment which will pay off in the years to come.

Truth is, if I hadn't bought - and rented instead - I would, today, be paying around £2000 a month to live where I do now. I am paying zero in rent/mortgage.
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Originally Posted by t16mbo
We won 25k last yr n still not enough for deposit on a house. Needed 37k.
Have a friend who has 100s of houses n get dodge mortgages but not even he can get me a 100%.
do hope one day they do come back as what I pay in rent I cld have a massive house
This is where there is an opening. Not boasting, but there are people like me (older, no mortgage) getting $hit interest rates. I would happily lend someone (with gurantee's) a deposit. 12k at 5.5% net.

for example, if your house was worth 100k, i lend you 12k, and the deeds show i own 12% of the house. When the loan is paid off, you then own the lot.
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Originally Posted by paulr
This is where there is an opening. Not boasting, but there are people like me (older, no mortgage) getting $hit interest rates. I would happily lend someone (with gurantee's) a deposit. 12k at 5.5% net.

for example, if your house was worth 100k, i lend you 12k, and the deeds show i own 12% of the house. When the loan is paid off, you then own the lot.
Thats almost the same principle of part buy part rent which is offered on loads of new builds, you have to make 'rent' payments on the % not covered by the mortgage
Old 28 October 2011, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulJC
Thats almost the same principle of part buy part rent which is offered on loads of new builds, you have to make 'rent' payments on the % not covered by the mortgage
Something is amiss somewhere. Young people want to borrow money but cant. Old people have money spare, but cant get a decent rate.


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It wasn't so much the 100% or 110% mortgages that were the problem. If I was earning £100K and the house I wanted was £100K but I took a mortgage of £110K, I could still afford to pay the mortgage payments.

What was the problem was self certification - or at least the miss-use of self cert.

I know of a very lovely lady who has jsut become self employed and likely to earn about 80K this year. As she's not got full accounts she can't get a mortgage because no more self cert.

I also know a chap who has property worth about £1.2m and he currently earns £1000 a month and is on a financial knife edge! All thanks to the miss use of self cert.
Old 28 October 2011, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
It wasn't so much the 100% or 110% mortgages that were the problem. If I was earning £100K and the house I wanted was £100K but I took a mortgage of £110K, I could still afford to pay the mortgage payments.

What was the problem was self certification - or at least the miss-use of self cert.

I know of a very lovely lady who has jsut become self employed and likely to earn about 80K this year. As she's not got full accounts she can't get a mortgage because no more self cert.

I also know a chap who has property worth about £1.2m and he currently earns £1000 a month and is on a financial knife edge! All thanks to the miss use of self cert.
I was in the same boat a mere 2 months ago and still got a decent rate mortgage with only 20% deposit.


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