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Old 29 September 2011, 09:22 AM
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Cool UK 'Is Worst Place To Live In Europe'

This should make for a lively debate! HOPEFULLY!!!

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16078953

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Old 29 September 2011, 09:35 AM
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I would say yes due to a variety of reasons ranging from high taxes, cost of heating/living etc, mass immigration, ferrel youth who can't be disciplined, a government (or successive governments) who haven't got a bloody clue, the EU and other things.
Old 29 September 2011, 09:36 AM
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Yet it still attracts the detritus from Europe and so called asylum seekers (not detracting from the genuine cases) from around the world who cross other countries such as Spain, France, Germany, etc to get here compounding the problems with our home grown layabouts, drug addicts and benefits lifestylers.

About time the whole lot was overhauled, justice, immigration, benefits, etc and Britain and British put first! No going to happen with the current crop of spineless, self serving politicians of any party.

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Old 29 September 2011, 09:39 AM
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Not much data to go with the report is there.
Old 29 September 2011, 09:47 AM
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I think it depends. I like France, but there are some really nasty bits of France, mostly inner city Paris, but there are a few other towns which are grot city. However, there are some really nice places, south coast, ski resorts etc.

Its the same with the UK, IMHO.
Old 29 September 2011, 09:58 AM
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Not much data to go with the report is there.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:01 AM
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Mass immigration of 3rd world people has definitely made it worse IMHO.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:03 AM
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And the thread starts going the only way we knew it would
Old 29 September 2011, 10:07 AM
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I think the UK is ace. I wouldn't move.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:10 AM
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"France and Spain came out on top of uSwitch's Quality of Life Index, with the UK bottom of a 10-country league table."

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but there's more than ten countries in Europe.
And what the hell does a price comparison website like uSwitch have to do with anything!
It makes no mention of who was polled either, or how the study was done.
Just some headline grabbing with absolutely no substance, british journalism is bollocks, that's about all we can take from this article.

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Old 29 September 2011, 10:12 AM
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Britain as a whole is a toilet, there are some very bad areas and good areas but the sh1te hole areas definitely outnumber the good areas.

We seem to have an open door policy to virtually anyone who wants to seek residence here is given carte blanche to come in and claim for whatever they can. We should adopt the policy of the USA / Australia in so much as that you need a job (that a UK resident cannot perform or cannot be filled) or you are in a preferred occupation that will benefit the country.

I think that we need to apply this immigration policy to all newcomers whether they be non EU community members or not, unfortunately the days of an open door policy cannot be sustained.

And of course we need a strong government not the current bunch of wishy washy clowns like Cameron and his gimp Clegg and the unelectable Milliband.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
And the thread starts going the only way we knew it would

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Old 29 September 2011, 10:25 AM
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I'd say these are the worst things from my POV:

High tax
High cost of living including property
Overcrowding
Mass 3rd world immigration
A creaking social fabric
An vulgar culture of material wealth
Prevalence of cynical and slick low culture (xfactor etc)
Unchecked growth of police/government powers such as anti-terrorism laws and ANPR.
Long terms fiscal problems.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I'd say these are the worst things from my POV:

High tax
High cost of living including property
Overcrowding
Mass 3rd world immigration
A creaking social fabric
An vulgar culture of material wealth
Prevalence of cynical and slick low culture (xfactor etc)
Unchecked growth of police/government powers such as anti-terrorism laws and ANPR.
Long terms fiscal problems.
about right!
Old 29 September 2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
And the thread starts going the only way we knew it would
Maybe that is because people are concerned about immigration?

It's more or less too late anyway I think though.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
And of course we need a strong government

Which country has, by your definition, a "strong" government, and what would such a strong government in the UK be able to achieve, in your opinion?
Old 29 September 2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Maybe that is because people are concerned about immigration?
That will only be the racist, DM reading idiots he likes to bang on about Do not forget the only problem the UK faces is 'white trash' according to Mr enlightened

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Old 29 September 2011, 10:38 AM
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These threads make me laugh.

If you don't like it then do something about it other than foaming at the mouth from behind a keyboard.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:43 AM
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Britain has really gone down hill in the past decade so much so that my wife and I are looking into emigrating to austrailia.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by martin850
Britain has really gone down hill in the past decade so much so that my wife and I are looking into emigrating to austrailia.
Tax and house prices are just as bad as in Oz as here TBH.

Back in the 90's it would have been a great place for British people to go, now you have more and more 3rd world immigration going there too. It's not quite as bad as here but you can see a trend.
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
These threads make me laugh.

If you don't like it then do something about it other than foaming at the mouth from behind a keyboard.
Morning
Who is foaming at the mouth?

Great idea about doing something but what? Our politicians make the rules we vote them into power on the understanding that they will do what they pledge to do and more often than not they do not and U-Turn. Same for all mainstream parties!

Mass protest? - maybe
Write to your MP? - tried that and just get the part line and blown off
Civil disobedience? - Not sure this is the way to go
Vote for a extreme right or left wing party? - not an option - for me anyhow

Any other suggestions gratefully received

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Old 29 September 2011, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
High tax
Old 29 September 2011, 10:56 AM
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Well, I was brought up on the edge of Dartmoor which I loved, I've lived in Glasgow and Edinburgh which I really enjoyed and I currently live in a little village in South Wales where I'm content. The only place in the UK where I didn't enjoy living was Slough and that's because it's dominated by people from the third world who speak aggressively and wear pyjamas outside.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I'd say these are the worst things from my POV:

High tax
High cost of living including property
Overcrowding
Mass 3rd world immigration
A creaking social fabric
An vulgar culture of material wealth
Prevalence of cynical and slick low culture (xfactor etc)
Unchecked growth of police/government powers such as anti-terrorism laws and ANPR.
Long terms fiscal problems.
Pretty much. But that report is complete rubbish. No mention of any specifics.

TBH, I'd prefer to live here than anywhere else in Europe. It seems so do everyone else hence the immigration problem.
Old 29 September 2011, 10:58 AM
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Morning Paul

You're looking big picture and change for the better won't happen that way, certainly not overnight. I'm thinking local shemes where you give up some time to help others in your community making it an overall better place to live.
Old 29 September 2011, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
"France and Spain came out on top of uSwitch's Quality of Life Index, with the UK bottom of a 10-country league table."

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but there's more than ten countries in Europe.
And what the hell does a price comparison website like uSwitch have to do with anything!
It makes no mention of who was polled either, or how the study was done.
Just some headline grabbing with absolutely no substance, british journalism is bollocks, that's about all we can take from this article.
Just what i was about to post this is a price comparison site highighting how (surprise surprise) price comparison site can be used to search for better pricing.
I wouldnt mind betting some tosser at sky has got a best mate in uswitch promotions department or rather more likely Murdoch has bought shares in the site
I am fecking sick of the ****ty so called stories splashed over front pages on slow news days purporting to be news when they are down right fabrications.

The express yesterday had the most pathetic headline about house prices going up something like 60 % but when you read the small print they mean over the last 10 years how the **** is that even newsworthy let alone fit for a banner headline.

I havent bought a national newspaper in years just check online and read Private eye.
You might just as well by viz for all the relevance the tabloids have
Old 29 September 2011, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Not convinced this is true! Not for Germany anyway I pay a shed load more in income tax, social security taxes and insurances than is represented there. 48% is a far more accurate assessment for Germany atleast.
Old 29 September 2011, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Tax and house prices are just as bad as in Oz as here TBH.

Back in the 90's it would have been a great place for British people to go, now you have more and more 3rd world immigration going there too. It's not quite as bad as here but you can see a trend.
Sorry, but your talking $hit, I've lived here for four years now and the problems with asylum seekers here is nothing like the uk, it makes head line news if a boat with 80 asylum seekers get to Oz, then they are put in detention centers for years until they can be prosesed, not like the uk where they get a house and benefits the second they get there. Yes our tax and house prices are dearer than the uk but the wages are relevant to it.
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What occupation are you in that will allow you entry into Australia, Matt?
Old 29 September 2011, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
What occupation are you in that will allow you entry into Australia, Matt?
Plumbing/gas


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