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Old 18 May 2011, 09:36 PM
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Question What Do You Reckon?

Let's assume ....

Someone walks into a shop and they have a Grandfather Clock reduced from £2895 - marked down to £895.

They haggle hard and buy it for £800 - bargain!!

The shop agrees to deliver it within the week - they pay for it and leave their details.

Then, the Head Office of the shop telephones them and informs them that they will not be delivering the clock unless the person pays £1895. Apparently, the marked down price should have been £1895 and not £895!!

Was the sale concluded in the shop on payment and acceptance of delivery address? I believe that it was ..... or, is the sale only completed when said item is delivered?
Old 18 May 2011, 09:42 PM
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Grandfather Clocks are passé these days so who cares?
Old 18 May 2011, 09:43 PM
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Well, I do rather like them!!

You need the house to see them suited however.

You should hear the hour in my house ... chimes, gongs, tings, bings, bongs
Old 18 May 2011, 09:45 PM
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surely sale agreed and deal completed? their hard luck id say.
Old 18 May 2011, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

You should hear the hour in my house ... chimes, gongs, tings, bings, bongs
Leave your Thai ladyboys out of it
Old 18 May 2011, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
surely sale agreed and deal completed? their hard luck id say.
But they are not going to deliver it .... so who's bad luck is it?
Old 18 May 2011, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You should hear the hour in my house ... chimes, gongs, tings, bings, bongs
At your age, i would of thought the last thing you need is confirmation of each passing hour!
Old 18 May 2011, 10:00 PM
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id be contacting trading standards.
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Originally Posted by b13bat
At your age, i would of thought the last thing you need is confirmation of each passing hour!
As you age you appreciate quality items and timepieces.
Old 18 May 2011, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Let's assume ....

Someone walks into a shop and they have a Grandfather Clock reduced from £2895 - marked down to £895.

They haggle hard and buy it for £800 - bargain!!

The shop agrees to deliver it within the week - they pay for it and leave their details.

Then, the Head Office of the shop telephones them and informs them that they will not be delivering the clock unless the person pays £1895. Apparently, the marked down price should have been £1895 and not £895!!

Was the sale concluded in the shop on payment and acceptance of delivery address? I believe that it was ..... or, is the sale only completed when said item is delivered?

Does this person earn less than £50k a year?

Seriously Pete, who cares?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
they will not be delivering the clock unless the person pays £1895.

Go collect it yourself
Old 18 May 2011, 10:12 PM
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Does this grandfather clock tell you when the clocks go forward ?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Does this grandfather clock tell you when the clocks go forward ?
Well, it's got a Moon Phase ..... not sure that they changed the clocks in the old days?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
Go collect it yourself
7' 4" Tall .......... and rather delicate!
Old 18 May 2011, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You need the house to see them suited however.
How does it suit your 50's council house?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
As you age you appreciate quality items and timepieces.
I have always had an appreciation for quality items. That's not age, that's taste. I've never been interested in 'timepieces' beyond a good quality, reliable wrist watch. I can't really see that changing with age.

So there is a definite link between age and interest/appreciation of 'timepieces'??

I can't think for the life of me why anyone in there twilight years would want every passing hour marked with the toll of a bell?

Surely, it should be to the contrary?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:40 PM
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What Do You Reckon?


Your making it up . Next
Old 18 May 2011, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
What Do You Reckon?


Your making it up . Next
He needs some thing to do to fill the time between the..
Originally Posted by pslewis
... chimes, gongs, tings, bings, bongs
Old 18 May 2011, 10:46 PM
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Do you have a receipt?
Old 18 May 2011, 10:49 PM
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I never said it was me ...... and this person has a receipt.
Old 18 May 2011, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
What Do You Reckon?


Your making it up . Next
Like you're making up spelling?

Yes, that's right it's YOU'RE!!!
Old 19 May 2011, 12:53 AM
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Yep, deal done when money changed hands. Sale concluded. Tough luck on the shop. Head office can say what they like it's too late.

Two elements are required to form a legally binding contract:

1. The offer. You see something you want and ask to buy it
2. The acceptance. The shop agrees to sell it to you at an the agreed price

Controlled by the Sales of Goods Act 1979 as ammended by Sale & Supply of Goods Act 1994.

Go get em!

P.S. You don't need a receipt. A shop doesn't have to legally give you one so they can't demand that you need a receipt for returns/faulty goods etc. Still, having one in this instance is a good thing.

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Old 19 May 2011, 08:38 AM
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Seems pretty simple in this case then. Demand your (their) product!
Old 19 May 2011, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
7' 4" Tall .......... and rather delicate!
And what about the clock?
Old 19 May 2011, 09:07 AM
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They can refuse to deliver though?
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If you push this I reckon the shop will "drop" the clock during packing, say how terribly sorry they are for their error, and offer you a full refund.

Mysteriously, a very similar clock will appear for sale shortly afterwards
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Originally Posted by Luminous
If you push this I reckon the shop will "drop" the clock during packing, say how terribly sorry they are for their error, and offer you a full refund.

Mysteriously, a very similar clock will appear for sale shortly afterwards
Yes: A VERY good reason to go and collect it yourself. Just remove the pendulum before transport.
You can hire a van for a couple of hours on what you saved, since it won't go in your Civic
Old 19 May 2011, 10:08 AM
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I reckon....I couldn't care less.
Old 19 May 2011, 10:10 AM
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I had a similar situation some years ago (though not for the sale of a clock).

A mate told me that a computer shop had a graphics card on sale on their website for £26.50 instead of £265.00. I ordered the item and had the money taken out of my account. But before it was shipped I had an e-mail telling me that this item was no longer in stock and refunded the money. I was convinced that this was just so they could get out of selling at the price I paid. There were plenty is stock when I ordered it. I took the matter to trading standards but there was not much they could do (they said) and the shop refused to send the product I had paid for and just refunded my card. I had written to them to state that I had made an offer, which they excepted by taking payment, and that this was therefore a contract, but in the end I was getting no where and dropped it. Some days later the item was on their website at £265.00

I suppose it depends on how much you want the item and how much you are prepared to fight for it. If you have paid for it and agreed for them to deliver then it's legally yours. Maybe you can arrange to get it collected privately and send the shop the bill, or pursue via small claims. Either way, you're in the right, despite the questionable taste in clocks..
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Yes: A VERY good reason to go and collect it yourself. Just remove the pendulum before transport.
You can hire a van for a couple of hours on what you saved, since it won't go in your Civic
Agreed.

Whoever has bought this thing (god knows why as I had one left me in a will once, and it was UGLY) should just hire a van and go and collect it.
Legally it has been sold, and as highlighted by pjamie it is now yours.

I hired a van to go and pick up a 300l fish tank 2 years ago as it was much cheaper to do so.


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