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Old May 13, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Surprised there hasn't been a thread on this?

Especially since this dossier changed world history in quite a way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13383841

Of course Blair would have been the main instigator - in my view having promised Bush that we would be there with him.

Campbell - arrogant lying streak of unelected p,iss

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Old May 13, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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This is never going to end. Its just one endless circular legal battle. The truth will never be allowed to get out without a whole load of flannel to hide behind.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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And in the meantime it's all costing the country a fortune. All those legal bods must be loving it!

Looking forward to the Libya Enquiry in 10 years time

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Old May 13, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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Read it last night and thought the same, I'm glad it's still in the public eye reminding everyone of Labours legacy.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Not many have been unable to see all that business for what it really was.

Just a shame that people can get away with it.

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Old May 13, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Surprised there hasn't been a thread on this?

Especially since this dossier changed world history in quite a way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13383841

Of course Blair would have been the main instigator - in my view having promised Bush that we would be there with him.

Campbell - arrogant lying streak of unelected p,iss

dl
The only time Campbell was really brought to task was on They Think It's All Over of all places! You should have seen his face when Rory Mcgrath and Jonathon Ross ripped in to him. Rory to Campbell 'I heard you did the marathon Alastair, what time did you get?' Campbell answers with a time to which Rory replies 'What took you so long, the Hutton report weighing you down was it?' Absolute class, Campbell was squirming in his seat.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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From today's Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...s-2283878.html
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Old May 14, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Thanks for that which is really very interesting. I had forgotten about the Today connection.

I just wish Campbell could be taken to task for this because it is a really serious matter and it is simply not enough for him to say he has "no further comment".

And by implication Blair was guilty of misleading the House as he must have known the dossier did not reflect the true facts.

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Old May 14, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Thanks for that which is really very interesting. I had forgotten about the Today connection.

I just wish Campbell could be taken to task for this because it is a really serious matter and it is simply not enough for him to say he has "no further comment".

And by implication Blair was guilty of misleading the House as he must have known the dossier did not reflect the true facts.

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Exactly. That is what annoys me most about thse enquiries. They cost the taxpayer a bloody fortune and despite the findings nothing happens. All we get is the usual 'we will learn from this' and of course they don't as they have no intention of doing so.

I wish somone in this country would get hold of politicians and the press, the two most corrupt and despicable groups of people in the land and make them properly accountable for their actions!
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Old May 14, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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They were talking about an enquiry into the Bin Laden thing on question time the other day. Who gives a **** what happened, he fecked with the USA and he payed the price, end of.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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he fecked with the USA and he payed the price, end of.
Alegedly
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Old May 14, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Dr David Kelly committed suicide after claiming evidence was 'sexed up', but the new evidence supports his claims.


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Old May 14, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
Dr David Kelly committed suicide after claiming evidence was 'sexed up', but the new evidence supports his claims.


Allegedly committed suicide. There are still those, me included, who wonder if he really did take his own life.

The whole Iraq thing stinks to high heaven. I just wish they would have been more honest about the whole affair. They could easily have done what they did without lying at all.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Mystery of the helicopter that landed at scene of Dr Kelly's death after his body was found

Hopefully, one day, the truth will be revealed and those who have been lurking in the shadows will be convicted and punished!!!

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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Kelly was probably murdered on Blairs instructions.
I think the truth will come out one day as too many people were involved. Why else was so much evidence suppressed? Still no inquest, which apparently is a legal requirement.

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Old May 15, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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If there is one statement that really annoys me, it is "Lessons will be learned"

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Old May 15, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If there is one statement that really annoys me, it is "Lessons will be learned"

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Quite! Especially as they never are
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Old May 15, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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From the Beeb:
Excerpt from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13371751


A senior ex-intelligence official has disputed Alastair Campbell's evidence about a dossier which outlined the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
Tony Blair's ex-spokesman told the Iraq inquiry last year the September 2002 document was designed to set out UK concerns, not "make the case for war".
But Michael Laurie said those producing it "saw it exactly as that and that was the direction we were given".




So why didn't Major-General Laurie come out with this information before we went to war? Could the Iraq invasion been avoided if he had?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
From the Beeb:
Excerpt from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13371751


A senior ex-intelligence official has disputed Alastair Campbell's evidence about a dossier which outlined the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
Tony Blair's ex-spokesman told the Iraq inquiry last year the September 2002 document was designed to set out UK concerns, not "make the case for war".
But Michael Laurie said those producing it "saw it exactly as that and that was the direction we were given".




So why didn't Major-General Laurie come out with this information before we went to war? Could the Iraq invasion been avoided if he had?

I guess the MoD guys wanted to keep their jobs and no one had the ***** to step up to the politicians. If Blair had told the truth it is doubtful if he could have got approval in the House which would have left USA on its own and Blair in the s,hit with Bush. dl
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Old May 15, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
I guess the MoD guys wanted to keep their jobs and no one had the ***** to step up to the politicians. If Blair had told the truth it is doubtful if he could have got approval in the House which would have left USA on its own and Blair in the s,hit with Bush. dl
And 7/7 wouldn't have happened

I take your point about wanting to keep their jobs, but I hope if I'd been privy to that info I would have had no choice but to speak up. So why come up with the info now?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
And 7/7 wouldn't have happened
That's an opinion, and probably a wrong one.
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