paulr

I've been made redundant, but have to work my 14 weeks notice. As i totally hate the job, half of me says s0d it, and just leave (with my redundancy of course).
I've suddenly lost my motivation. 13 of us are going, and "sickies" have increased ten fold.

Stay or go?

stevebt

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I'm sick to death of being robbed for hundreds every week I'm on the verge of just doing that

what would scooby do

stay to ensure you get a good reference.

Simon C

As above, be whiter than white.

Dirk Diggler 75

Work your notice get a reference then on the way out show em the finger or your backside it will be worth the 14 weeks wait............

Jamz3k

I've stupidly done it twice now. First time I was being pushed and walked out during a meeting and never spoke to the company again. Second time I came back from a week off and after a few hours on my first day back I was speaking to an ignorant pakistani person who was lying to me and I just couldn't do it anymore so I just put my headset down and left.

I recommend everyone try it someday it is one of the few times I've every felt totally in control within a work situation.

dazdavies

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If you upped and left without working your notice your employer is perfectly entitled to not pay you your redundancy.

Also the maximum notice period by law is 12 weeks unless specified in your contract.

paulr

Wrong. If you give them counter notice, unless you have a specialised job, they have to let you go (with redundancy)
My contract gives me one weeks notice for every year worked, hence 14 weeks.

dazdavies

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I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to give you advice.

My other half is a HR bod, she is UK HR Director for a large PLC and has her CIPDso not just a run of the mill HR advisor .

May I suggest, you double check things before you screw yourself over At a bare minimum get something in writing before you walk!

paulr

Good advice, thanks, i will.

Loco

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closest thing i have done to just saying **** it was when i was about 17, working at woolworths during college. I wanted to go off to the states to go travelling, but my boss wouldn't give me leave. so I kept my mouth shut about it, and on the day i was heading to the airport to go off to the states, i dropped a letter through the front door of the store, requesting a sabbatical....

no surprise, it wasn't granted!! however, because they couldn't fire me on the spot, they had to send me 3 written warnings, one a month, which resulted in 3 months pay before i finally got fired...

didnt bother me too much, my boss was a proper bitch, and i was glad to hear she lost her job when the company went bust (apologies to anyone else who may have lost their job too)

Terminator X

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Best to not burn bridges ... work it by doing 9 to 5 & relax in the knowledge that you can take it easy

TX.

Silver Angel

I lasted 1 day in a job once - they took the proper p**** so I never went back in

paulwrxboro

cant you just take the **** for 14 weeks

sti-04!!

Years ago i was an apprentice HGV mechani with Volvo, my dad & my boss were friends & i had just turned 18 & was messing about with a few girls anyway i had been late a few times & my boss "sacked" me .... so i was offered a job in the local milk factory screwing on bottle tops ........ i lasted 90 mins & to this day ... traffic permitting i havent been late since.

Lisawrx

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Not that this is of any help, but I think long notice periods take the ****, even more when somebody is being made redundant.

I mean the poor bloke is effectively being held back from potential new jobs, even though they are 'happy' to let him go. Maybe I am looking at this purely from an employee pov, but if someone is being let go, they'll most likely need to get into work asap. If a company demands 14 weeks, how many jobs could they miss out on?

Obviously I can only look at this personally, but unless the guy did very specialised work (in demand) or was brilliant at what he did, how many prospective employers are willing to wait over 3 months to fill a role?

Tbh, I can understand long notice periods when a person is choosing to leave a job, as a reasonable length of thime to fill the role is required. However, I don't think it is so fair to demand that same period when you-the company is putting someone out of work.

OP, I would find out for sure if you can give them a counter offer to still entitle you to the redundancy money, and if so, walk. If that isn't possible, then you'll have to either stick it out, or lose the payout (if you can afford to/have another job to walk into)

Good luck whatever you do.

SpecDscooby

In the real world with a house and kids to finance who can really do this, and what kind of man walks out on a job without one to goto?....surely in doing it your putting your family at risk.....

unless your a (not you personally, this is a generalisation) scum bag who is confident he wont lose his home coz the council house you live in will be covered by the rest of us "real peoples" taxes, or you confident in your ability to sponge of the state in another way how can you leave an income without another one to pay your bills?

Seems mental to me, and beyond belief. You took the job, ok you hate it but you stayed there happy to draw a wage then walk out before the jobs done?!..stick it out, surely you will feel better in the long run.

scoobeenut

Get your doctor to sign you off with stress. Obviously the stress of being made redundant, they will have to pay your sick pay for the last fourteen weeks and you can use the time to look for a new job.

pimmo2000

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You apply for jobs straight away and put in your application that you are being made redundant and that you can only start after .. such a date.

Companies tend to give good refs for redundancies .. and in a lot of cases they grant garden leave for the notice, well they do in places you can cause problems

Petem95

Doesn't matter how **** you think the job is - never burn your bridges, and always go out with your reputation intact.

Even if you never work for that firm again, you never know how your path might cross with people who've worked there, and they could be a position to affect your career in future.

Chip

Thats right, I was granted redundancy in Aug 2009 but on condition I stayed on for a further 18 months to help train newcomers.

Although for the last 6 months I really did not want to be there I just kept my head down , got on with my job and kepy my nose clean.

Now after 2 months away from work they have asked me to go back on a part time basis.

Chip

Leslie

It depends as much as anything on your own personal pride.

Les

Maz

iTrader: (34)

You want to get in to the real world sunshine. The majority of unemployed people would give their eye teeth to be in employment, yet you walked out because someone was lying to you over the phone! Heaven help you if you had to put up with what most employed people do. I'll not take your advice to try it as I'm more in control when I have the financial means to pay the bills and provide for my family.

DYK

Whatever way you choose leave the job in an amicable way,don't just walk out and not go back...

DYK

To be honest i don't see how you felt in control of a work situation if you walked out on a job,
Or do you mean it gave you a Hardon and you felt in control..

Turbohot

Yes, I have walked out of the job by saying to myself "**** it." I was on the job for about a month, and it p!ssed me off. So, there was no redundancy money for me to take home. No organisation is perfect out there, but I couldn't stand that employer's blatant disrespect to work ethics, sexist attitude, indecent proposals, gutter level innuendos, office bitching and slave-drivery of junior staff. I decided that they didn't deserve me Fortunately, I was in a position to take it or leave it. This experience has taught me to select and recruit my employers carefully. This experience doesn't make me into some non-adjusting, non-flexible employee either. I can put up with a lot of ****, but they were far too much to bear. A lot of time, people have to bite their tongue, and continue with the job. Tolerance is a good competency.

In OP's case, I suggest you stick around, if no one is treating you badly. It is very understandable that people's morale will be rock-bottom in such situation, where there livelihood is under a realistic threat. By performing as normal as possible, you would have good chance of getting a reasonable reference from them. All new empoyers want reference from your most recent employer these days. "Sickie" and other demotivational steps are a bit destructive for such chances. If you find it extremely difficult to perform there any longer, you may as well leave, if they are letting you take your redundancy money nevertheless.

Keep your chin up, and continue to apply for other jobs. There are jobs out there in this recession.

ScoobyDoo555

I walked out of a lecturing job once, after being promised X, Y & Z, I was still on a term-by-term contract, so I never knew if I had a job (although this was pretty much an unspoken guaranteed job)..... no such thing as redundancy pay etc.

I got offered a Full-time position that involved a relocation (back with commuting distance from my parents).

So I waited to see if my contract would be renewed (it NEVER used to be until about 6 weeks into the next term, causing pay issues)...... slowly cleaned out my desk whilst on evening duties.

The last day, I did my last class, told them I was leaving (one kid actually asked if I was leaving due to his delinquent approach to college which of course, wasn't the case - felt really bad about that tbh) and walked over to my boss's office. Told him that as my contract hasn't been renewed in any way, shape or form, I wouldn't be in on Monday.

The look on his face was priceless, as he realised the consequences of his inaction. (I'd been asking for months - with several broken promises in the meantime)

The laugh was that by the time I'd walked back to my office (about 2 mins), loads of staff were outside asking if it was true (jungle drums eh? )

I left the place head held high, knowing that I'd done the right thing.....

So, to answer your question, kind of. Still very daunting when you've got commitments to meet each month.

AsifScoob

I have walked out on various jobs, but I made sure I had nothing to lose by doing so.

Even though I may have walked out on the company I made sure I would have personal references. These days however, references just confirm your start and finish dates, plus job title. Not much more.

Do you HAVE to work the 14 weeks? Tell them to stuff it. Although there is good advice on here from people, don't worry about burning your bridges, move on. Why would you look back?

Reputation? make sure you were the one who told them to stuff it and that that everyone knows. That was my reputation - I wouldn't be ****** about with.

In 2003 was made redundant by Currys, well actually put on Garden Leave for 3 months, but had it confirmed to me that my job would be going. I was asked to stay on for a few weeks to help out. Told the Director to stuff it and that I was going straight away. There was no argument from him.

Hadn't even worked there two years, but left with 3 months fully paid GL, 2 months redundancy, plus one months notice. Worked out very nicely as the GL put me over the 2 year threshold for redundancy payments. Got my sharesave and pension contributions back also as lump sums, took the rest of the year off and did my house up. Sorted.

Asif

StickyMicky

Only did it once with a part time job when i was 17 so it had no real effect on me.

Echo what the others say about working till the end, i always have done since because you never know, look at me, i left a well paid job to go self employed and run my own gaff, after 6 years i decided that it was not worth doing anymore, so i contacted my own employers and asked for my old job back (which i got)

Now if you asked me 6 years ago if i thought i would be back at the same company i would have laughed in your face but i put in 100% right until the very last 5 mins of the final shift (then i cleared my locker)

StickyMicky

To be honest, i would put money on the fact that your personal job went, because your attitude sucks.

If your working attitude was a little better than they may have found some work for you.