pslewis

.... I have never known the roads to be in a worse state!!

Even in the war they were in better condition and they were being bombed!!!

Right, you Toffie Nosed Tories .... DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT - NOW!!!

Frosticles

iTrader: (1)

3rd world country now Pete.

pslewis

With a 3rd world Government!!

They were never this bad under Labour!!

sandyRS16i

iTrader: (13)

Dont worry I read speed limits are dropping - that should help you with more time to avoid the damaged areas

lozgti1

Have to say,never lost so many teeth just lately!

Might have to ditch my Eibachs!!!

SiPie

So glad I got the forester when I did as some of our roads are getting close to impassable without it...

mart360

Yawn,, nothing new to carp on about...


Your obviously at the end of your SN life, as you've done all the old topics to death...

prehaps nows the time to shuffle of to some other board, and give us some peace


Mart

tony de wonderful

My council just 'fixed' a couple of the worse potholes down the lane to my Parents.

I spotted two council blokes shoveling tarmac into the hole, then using a spade to 'compact' said tarmac.

That was it, no seal or anything, no proper compaction.

May as well fill the holes with dirt.

The roads really are in a bad way.

pslewis

Yet ..... still

You read them

You digest them

You even reply to them!!

Classic

dpb

Which war was that , the Vietnam one presumably

jonc

They can't as Labour has spent all the money!!!

bugeyejohn

iTrader: (11)

The council did some pot holes up the road from us,and in there wisdom left a 7 inch hole 3 ft from where they finished but on a positive note someone got a cheap driveway .A garage i know reckon there lapping it up all they do is replace springs and wheels,so i guess every cloud has a silver lining

RobsyUK

iTrader: (2)

Exactly the same here, although they dont even fill the hole fully so in a week it will be a hole again,

its a ****ing joke!

Chip

It was 13 years of neglect that caused the roads to be in the state that they are in now.

Did new labia even have a transport policy apart of course of introducing the M4 bus lane and London congestion charge.

Chip

pslewis

I never knew the roads as good as they were under Labour .... everyone knows they were so much better than they are now under this shambolic government!!

I demand that they fix them ... we pay enough to drive on them!!

mart360

even your reply is old dated and tired, just like you...

close the door on your way out



Mart

dpb

We also had the worst two winters in recent memory , i spec thats a conservative trick as well

+Doc+

Tell me about it, cost me eighty quid today for a new tyre from a huge pothole.
Going to look into claiming tomorrow!

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Lies more damn lies and further lies. Roads don't suddenly fall apart in less than a year. Its caused by years of neglect and poor quality control/materials on repairs and resurfacing.

I'm not complaining...its good for business; Over the past ten years suspension parts such as springs, shocks, ball joints, lower arms and bent wheels are all frequent items having to be replaced due to the state of our roads....on cars less than 3 years old!

I mean its quite common to get cars with broken coil springs now that are barely 3 years old......a broken spring was almost unheard of in cars under ten years old. But now, they are failing left right and centre. Two reasons; too much salt and too many potholes/speed bumps.

richs2891

Yes we are all paying too much road tax but oh hand on the last lot put that up massively didnt they ? Not suggesting this new lot would not have done the same if they had thought about it / been in power at the time.
What % of the road tax actually goes back into road and repairing the current infrastructure, not very much I guess.
And everyone wonders why the number of 4x4 on the roads grows every year (not counting the last 2 bad winters had recently either)

Richard

tony de wonderful

It's the morons driving 2 tons soft-roaders which are helping wreck the roads.

tony de wonderful

They should get the utility and phones companies etc to pay for new roads, they helped wreck them by all the manic digging they have done the in the last decade. It's always cheap/dodgy repairs which is where the crumbling starts.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

I have to agree, the roads down here in Kent are getting worse.
Although when I went to Essex two weeks ago, I came back thinking our roads were like silk compared to theirs. They were shocking.
The pot holes were so big, you could actually see a 'line' appearing on the road that everyone was taking to try and avoid them!

pslewis

You still here?

Strange behaviour from someone who doesn't want to read what I have to say?

Get help

pslewis

3 reasons ..... the Third is poorer quality materials used in construction and the tighter tolerances used (10 years ago we designed with a factor of safety much greater than we do now - advanced CAD tools have meant we can design much closer to the break points, and do - as it's cheaper!).

And it's utter poppycock to say roads don't fall apart in a few months!! A bad winter can cause havoc ... that's a few MONTHS!! No, we all know why they are in such a bad way ... they are not being maintained - and that's because there is no money to do so - and that's because this Government have cut funding to Councils who now have to choose between a Child Care place and a pot-hole!!!

The broken tarmac lies firmly at the foot of the Eton Boyz!!

Miniman

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Everyone? I don't remember that. Following the snows in Feb 2010, the roads round here weren't fixed until July 2010 (Con-dem in charge? I forget the dates ). Then following the snows in Dec, our roads pot holes have been addressed all round the area these last few weeks. Also the local main road was gritted within a few days of the snow in Dec (never gritted in Feb at all). They also did the road outside out school over Half Term - unusual bit of clear thinking by the local CC central government.

Now clearly I could "blame" the local CC who are responsible for the roads, but it appears we're blaming the central government today so...

Thanks Con-Dem's for fixing roads New Labia didn't and thank you for gritting and fixing roads quicker than under the last government. Damn you for being worse than the last government!

jonc

And who's fault is that?

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

More damn lies. Freeze-thaw-freeze thaw.

Cracks in road deveolps in the road. One winter opens it, next winter opens it further, winter after that....pothole.

Crack has occured due to poor quality surfacing methods and materials, unstable hardcore, or utilities digging it up and not patching it porperly. Not to forget leaving a worn road surface for too long before fully resurfacing it.

The problem when a decayed road is resurfaced now, the hardcore has been damaged, so new surfaces will also fall into cracks, which will fall in to holes several winters later. A simple topping of tarmac will not fix it...which is unfortunately what most councils and highways authorities do.

Leslie

You probably remember the days when the local councils took a pride in their roads and used to keep them in good repair. That way used to save money on monstrous repair bills after a long period.

Since NL took power, the councils have gradually stopped maintaining the roads saving the money which they should have spent on them for other nefarious purposes which never seemed to have done much for most of the people anyway. The roads have got progressively worse during that time.

We are now at the position where it is too expensive to repair the roads properly and all they will do is a bit of "patching" which will last for no sigificant time and not actually improve the roads anyway

Les

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

As Leslie said, the roads aren't going to get fixed properly for a significant period of time. We are still busy digging the banks & economy out of the shithole.

Road Tax isn't called road tax anymore, the reason being that it doesn't pay for the roads anymore. Its now "vehicle excise duty" meaning the money can be spent on anything, like paying for sex changes on the NHS because someone thinks they were born the wrong sex, instead of fixing the countries roads & improving the infrastructure.

Infact its utterly scandelous that the roads are so bad, dangerous too, while avoiding potholes you are not concentrating on the road as you would normally, so your situational awareness suffers.

Blaming the current govenment is poppycock, they aren't responsible, Labour let the roads get in the state they are by spending the money on a pointless war in the middle east instead of spending it at home.

The solution is easy.

1. Cut all foriegn aid
2. Tax smokers & drinkers more heavily
3. Stop paying for poncey stuff on the NHS
4. Get the f*ck out the middle east & let them deal with it themselves
3. Actually spend RFL on the roads

Job jobbed


*I accept that none of the above is going to happen, but its wishful thinking

** I also know that in reality I know little about the situation in Iraq/Afganistan, so pulling out now is probably a bad idea at this point in time - we've got them into this situation, I guess we need to clean up after ourselves - I fully support our armed forces, I just don't agree with the wars.