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Old 13 February 2011, 08:51 PM
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Top Tip from Top Gear .... 13th February 2011 .... 20:43

And I know you know as I know they talk sense ...
Old 13 February 2011, 09:00 PM
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Not like Pete to start a wind up thread!

Evening Pete.
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Old 13 February 2011, 09:04 PM
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Well said Pete.
Old 13 February 2011, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosticles
Well said Pete.
Think that'd probably include remapped Beemers.
Old 13 February 2011, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Think that'd probably include remapped Beemers.
Or modified stalks which include indicators
Old 13 February 2011, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Or modified stalks which include indicators
Old 13 February 2011, 10:04 PM
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especially late 80's BMW's full of scabs, pubes and poo
Old 13 February 2011, 10:48 PM
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Or a new Honda full of shoite...
Old 13 February 2011, 10:49 PM
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I think it tells us that the Manufacturer knows best .... messing about with it knackers it - not putting too fine a point on it.

As I have always said ...........
Old 13 February 2011, 11:09 PM
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Each part is designed with its surround parts in mind. the manufacturers spend millions developing cars

keep it standard
Old 13 February 2011, 11:11 PM
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WRC, old Group A etc were all modified.

I guess the manufacturer might not know best?
Old 13 February 2011, 11:34 PM
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Modified for rallying?

Hardly road going were they? Would knock all your teeth out and be as reliable as a TVR!!

Nah, we all know that the standard car is best for what it was designed for .... the roads, reliability and comfort.

If you want something different - buy the car that does what you want straight from the box - don't take our cars and b4stardize them into chavmobiles that everyone laughs at!!

Keep it standard ............ you know it makes sense

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^ Did your car come with a tow bar and a ***** backbox ?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Modified for rallying?

Hardly road going were they? Would knock all your teeth out and be as reliable as a TVR!!
You don't win rallies by building unreliable cars......

Also Group N rally cars are virtually showroom cars with additional safety equipment added
Old 14 February 2011, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pacenote
You don't win rallies by building unreliable cars......

Also Group N rally cars are virtually showroom cars with additional safety equipment added
Yes, but they have a team of mechanics who rebuild the engines and gearboxes for fun, not to mention a load of cash and spare parts.
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I think that is good advice from Pete, means it has probably been thrashed anyway.

Best to get a standard car and then get the enjoyment of modifying it yourself. Thats what I did with my classic STi.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Thats what I did with my classic STi.

Les
You mean a WRX modified by SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL?
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think that is good advice from Pete, means it has probably been thrashed anyway.

Best to get a standard car and then get the enjoyment of modifying it yourself. Thats what I did with my classic STi.

Les
Did you thrash it after you mofified it Les? Would it have been a good buy for the next purchaser?

I don't see an issue with it as long as you are conscious of the fact that ]

1. Some prospective buyers will be put off and you won't get the money back on those mods.
2. Make sure you get sound advice (Andy F, Bob Rawle etc etc) before you do anything.

Do that and you can have a car which is great fun!
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
You mean a WRX modified by SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL?
What are you wittling on about now TDW?

Of course it was a tweaked WRX. It was No.197 out of 200 and they have the best basic engine of them all.

Cant see why you even said that!

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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Did you thrash it after you mofified it Les? Would it have been a good buy for the next purchaser?

I don't see an issue with it as long as you are conscious of the fact that ]

1. Some prospective buyers will be put off and you won't get the money back on those mods.
2. Make sure you get sound advice (Andy F, Bob Rawle etc etc) before you do anything.

Do that and you can have a car which is great fun!
No I did not thrash it. You can get all the best performance out of a vehicle without thrashing it at all as I am sure you know anyway. With a bit of mechanical sympathy you can get better perfomance without hanging on to a gear until you get to valve bounce or booting it into pre-ignition which really upsets No 3 cylinder of course!

Worth making sure you have it nicely adjusted to avoid a dead cut due to overboosting or pre-ignition as mentioned and all the bits such as a better up pipe, a cat free down pipe with a free flow cat in the rear pipe which still passes the emission test, match up the ports, a Dawes device to control the boost, a knock indicator for safety's sake,not forgetting to get shot of the understeer by eliminating the bumpsteer and fitting solid rear roll bar links to get neutral handling, and you then have a car with outstanding performance which does not require to be "ragged" in any way to achieve it on the road. It is over revving and pre-ignition which are the killers.

Many people will have done all that and got great personal satisfaction from the way their car performs.

Les
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Modified for rallying?

Hardly road going were they? Would knock all your teeth out and be as reliable as a TVR!!

Nah, we all know that the standard car is best for what it was designed for .... the roads, reliability and comfort.

If you want something different - buy the car that does what you want straight from the box - don't take our cars and b4stardize them into chavmobiles that everyone laughs at!!

Keep it standard ............ you know it makes sense
PPP and Cosworth.

Bye!
Old 14 February 2011, 05:43 PM
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he is a trolling *** clown, ignore him.##



Why would you go on a modified car forum and say that if you werent craving for attention in your old folks home, instead of trolling us with sh1te, press the emergency button next to your bed, a nurse will show up sooner or later and give you drugs to keep you quiet, then you might stop posting blatant attempts to give yourself some attention, in other words, stop it pete, your getting really boring now, or has dementia set in and you dont remenber all the sh1te you post?
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Originally Posted by Leslie
What are you wittling on about now TDW?

Of course it was a tweaked WRX. It was No.197 out of 200 and they have the best basic engine of them all.

Cant see why you even said that!

Les
he said it because an sti is a modded wrx, its just modded by subaru!
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Originally Posted by Leslie
No I did not thrash it. You can get all the best performance out of a vehicle without thrashing it at all as I am sure you know anyway. With a bit of mechanical sympathy you can get better perfomance without hanging on to a gear until you get to valve bounce or booting it into pre-ignition which really upsets No 3 cylinder of course!

Les
Indeed. Although I have fun in my cars, I'm not much of a "thrasher" either!

Probably why a mapped 2.5 appeals!
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They clearly modified that zonda
Old 14 February 2011, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
What are you wittling on about now TDW?

Of course it was a tweaked WRX. It was No.197 out of 200 and they have the best basic engine of them all.

Cant see why you even said that!

Les
The point is it was not a standard car if it was an STi.
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Stop nitpicking , it set a standard for the sti to follow


I had number 97 of 100 ,original sti
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In a lot of cases its proberly safer buying a modified car at least you know what your getting as long as its in good nick, My worry would be some of the so called standard cars which in reality have had the trick bits taken of to look standard and are running on the wrong map
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Mods are a personal thing though are'nt they??....if you mod a car its to your own specification. I always buy standard un touched cars, why??...
a). because i will "personalise" them how i want, not how the previous owner wanted.
b). Often like it or not mods do ruin a car, getting them all set up just right is extreamly tough. Perhaps that is why unless you sell to an enthusiast you lose most if not all the money spent on the mods, hence so many modded cars just get broke up for parts....shame really.


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