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Old 05 February 2011, 10:32 AM
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Default Finally - Cameron attacks 'state multiculturalism'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ervatives.race
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...m-2205074.html

and for those who prefer colouring books in to reading them: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lturalism.html

And about time - i hope it is not just empty words and a soundbite or two from him...
Old 05 February 2011, 10:38 AM
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Well this is a step in the right direction

Clearly multiculturalism just allows intolerant groups to take root and thrive because of our tolerance. We are now seeing the fruits of this failure (7/7, UK born and bred Islamists fighting our troops in the Middle East etc).

"Again it just seems the Muslim community is very much in the spotlight, being treated as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution."
Can't think why people would think that

I'm sure F1_Fan will be along in a minute up in arms, but it really is about time this country got itself sorted out, and stopped turning a blind eye to these groups settling here but having no intention of following by our rules.
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Well thats not rocket science now is it.
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This isn't just about religion imho - thre are rival gangs of Eastern Euros in Northampton that have literally taken over parts of residential areas and make 'outsiders unwelcome and regularly fight. Hardly integrated into the bigger society.

I am tired of filling out forms which ask me what ethnic background i am from - why does this matter so much
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I'm sure F1_Fan will be along in a minute up in arms, but it really is about time this country got itself sorted out, and stopped turning a blind eye to these groups settling here but having no intention of following by our rules.
I'm still waiting for that phone number from you so I can check out this so called immigrant bias at your place of work. You won't of course ever provide it as you made it up, but we all know that

P.S. Shouldn't you be in Luton with your far right friends?
Old 05 February 2011, 11:03 AM
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If people want to settle in any country then they should be prepared to accept that country's laws and traditions without any special treatment.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If people want to settle in any country then they should be prepared to accept that country's laws and traditions without any special treatment.

Les
spot on

if you dont like it **** off some where else

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Old 05 February 2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If people want to settle in any country then they should be prepared to accept that country's laws and traditions without any special treatment.

Les
Yep.

Try going to a Muslim country and opening a church. Or a Catholic school. Or banning - no wait - simply complaining about Muslim dress code. Try telling them they can't because it offends you.

How long do you think you would survive?

Yet we have to have "faith" schools here. Hindu only, Islamic only.
We have mosques.
We have complaints every Christmas.
We have personal dress items prohibited.
At my boys school last year they were told "no bringing in Christmas cards" as it may offend/alienate some people.

If things do not start to level out here, this country is going to finish dying. It's already started IMO.
Old 05 February 2011, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If people want to settle in any country then they should be prepared to accept that country's laws and traditions without any special treatment.

Les
Originally Posted by pinkypurkhardt
spot on

if you dont like it **** off some where else

well said.
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Originally Posted by foz200315
Yep.

Try going to a Muslim country and opening a church. Or a Catholic school. Or banning - no wait - simply complaining about Muslim dress code. Try telling them they can't because it offends you.

How long do you think you would survive?

Yet we have to have "faith" schools here. Hindu only, Islamic only.
We have mosques.
We have complaints every Christmas.
We have personal dress items prohibited.
At my boys school last year they were told "no bringing in Christmas cards" as it may offend/alienate some people.

If things do not start to level out here, this country is going to finish dying. It's already started IMO.

I lived in a Muslim country for a year or so and spent time in a few other Muslim countries. The locals had no problem with celebrations such as Christmas, Easter, etc including christmas lights and other outward signs of celebration. We where also actively invited to get involved with Muslim celebrations such as Eid and visiting Mosques and understanding the culture and religion - not with a view to brainwashing and ultimately converting us infidels - more to get to understand it. You do find churches of other denominations in Muslim countries and people of differing faiths living and working side by side. It is just in this country the PC doo gooders (often in positions of power and influence) seem to feel the need to justify themselves by meddling and causing trouble where there isn't any.

The last government championed multiculturalism in this country and like so many of their ill-conceived and executed plans and agendas - IT FAILED and in this case failed miserably!

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Angela Merkel said it last year and it was brushed under the carpet by the pc brigade.


Now cameron has said it lets see what the pc bunch of ***** say now, i bet every muslim "group" in the uk is claiming islam is being singled out?



Its about time someone had the ***** to say this in the uk, multiculturism has never worked, the groups involved dont want to mix, they want to dominate.



Now public money will stop funding, directly or indirectly, these ******* idiots who think england is iraq circa 1835.


now its time to speak out about these stupid arranged marriages that the woman cannot leave or she will be killed for so called honour and the fact that young muslim lads shout abusive **** to white lads but when they get it back they are allowed to play the race card and the white lads get done for racial assault but the muslim lads dont.



The pc brigade can **** off now, any credibility they thought they had has now gone forever, lets hope they stop pushing their stupid agenda and accept the truth, ITS NOT WORKING!



Where is the relentless spouter of sh1te ps lewis, labour created this multicultural mess didnt they?



And f1fan, you gonna take this to the european court of human (muslim) rights, goes against your stance a little all this, doesnt it?



let the flaming begin (by the pc brigade)

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Old 05 February 2011, 11:44 AM
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just read the links on the op's post, what a sh1te piece of journalism byt he dailyFAIL, typical of them and the tw@s that read it, andthe guardian has had the ***** to name bradistan as a hotspot for forced marriages.


Bradistan is a massive problem area and epitomises the issue, a muslim area whites are scared to go into, that is number one for insurance and personal injury fraud and its full of people who simply have no intention of ever getting a job and just want to move the whole family over here and sponge of the state cos it will let them, lets hope all this stops NOW
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Now lets start sending the bu66ers back.

Not only will it save the NHS Billions every year. It will cut Benefit spending by Billions, and free up housing stock that due to the ever growing population (Massive jump since Labour opened the front door) that it will bring down demand and house perices to a more sustainable level.

EDIT:
Wait's for Cameron to be called a Racist.
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
Angela Merkel said it last year and it was brushed under the carpet by the pc brigade.


Now cameron has said it lets see what the pc bunch of ***** say now, i bet every muslim "group" in the uk is claiming islam is being singled out?



Its about time someone had the ***** to say this in the uk, multiculturism has never worked, the groups involved dont want to mix, they want to dominate.



Now public money will stop funding, directly or indirectly, these ******* idiots who think england is iraq circa 1835.


now its time to speak out about these stupid arranged marriages that the woman cannot leave or she will be killed for so called honour and the fact that young muslim lads shout abusive **** to white lads but when they get it back they are allowed to play the race card and the white lads get done for racial assault but the muslim lads dont.



The pc brigade can **** off now, any credibility they thought they had has now gone forever, lets hope they stop pushing their stupid agenda and accept the truth, ITS NOT WORKING!



Where is the relentless spouter of sh1te ps lewis, labour created this multicultural mess didnt they?



And f1fan, you gonna take this to the european court of human (muslim) rights, goes against your stance a little all this, doesnt it?



let the flaming begin (by the pc brigade)
Hey buddy, good to see you

If you read the articles you will see Cameron is looking for better ways to integrate them into our society not to send them home or stop them coming. Sorry if that bursts your bubble.
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
Bradistan

Hahahahaha
Old 05 February 2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Hey buddy, good to see you

If you read the articles you will see Cameron is looking for better ways to integrate them into our society not to send them home or stop them coming. Sorry if that bursts your bubble.
what you mean make all the shop keepers actaully speak english and pay taxes, and maybe stop selling **** and booze to 14 year old girls while trying to **** them?


I hope so?
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"the idea that we should respect different cultures within Britain to the point of allowing them – indeed encouraging them – to live separate lives, apart from each other and apart from the mainstream."
Nail hit firmly on the head.

Problem though is Horse-Stable-Bolted.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Nail hit firmly on the head.

Problem though is Horse-Stable-Bolted.
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Do we have to have ANOTHER thread on this subject? Jesus!

Why can't we have a sensible discussion on Multiculturalism instead of the usual idiotic comments from people?

THAT'S why it goes wrong every time!
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Do we have to have ANOTHER thread on this subject? Jesus!

Why can't we have a sensible discussion on Multiculturalism instead of the usual idiotic comments from people?

THAT'S why it goes wrong every time!
Shut up you bacon dodging rag-head!

Agreed, things are better discussed and out in the open - it doesn't have to or need to turn into a axe-grinding slanging match or racist diatribe
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Asif's right though. This thread has been done a hindred times already on SN with the same posts form the same people.

Especially annoying is the fact Cameron is only saying things like this to deflect the focus form the fact he is f**king up the economy!!
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intergration has never worked and never will , the only place intergration works .IS THE QUEUE IN THE BENEFITS OFFICES
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Originally Posted by madscoob
intergration has never worked and never will , the only place intergration works .IS THE QUEUE IN THE BENEFITS OFFICES
Integration might though
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Asif's right though. This thread has been done a hindred times already on SN with the same posts form the same people.

Especially annoying is the fact Cameron is only saying things like this to deflect the focus form the fact he is f**king up the economy!!
Whatever you think Camoron is the PM of this country and does have some powers (assuming Brussels let him) He is now talking about change and changing Labours disastrous experiment/attempt at Multiculturalism. This country has problems other than debt and must not just focus on one thing at a time. Can you really argue with the bones of what he says and do you think integration and multiculturalism is a roaring and complete success???

It will be good to see it tackled and sorted out.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Integration might though
bugger i spelt it wrong lmfao . true though because no one want to live by another mans rules . slavery was ruled out years ago apart from this country where we are all slaves to the state , (if you are working that is )
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Integration might though
People who live in glass house's shouldn't really ********** should they

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Asif's right though. This thread has been done a hindred times already on SN with the same posts form the same people.

Especially annoying is the fact Cameron is only saying things like this to deflect the focus form the fact he is f**king up the economy!!

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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
People who live in glass house's shouldn't really ********** should they
Glass house's what?

There's a difference between a typo and illiteracy
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if you ever want to watch a superb program and learn how immigration should be done watch australian border control on sky no messing illegals get locked up charged for thier stay in jail and then the ozzie goverment charge the airline that bought them in $30.000 dollars per person and return them on the next flight at airlines expence . thats how illegals should be dealt with not given a free house and LOADS OF OUR MONEY
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Whatever you think Camoron is the PM of this country and does have some powers (assuming Brussels let him) He is now talking about change and changing Labours disastrous experiment/attempt at Multiculturalism. This country has problems other than debt and must not just focus on one thing at a time. Can you really argue with the bones of what he says and do you think integration and multiculturalism is a roaring and complete success???

It will be good to see it tackled and sorted out.
Yes it's great to be under the guidance of our second unelected PM

What his speech fails to do is tell us how he intends to change anything. It is easy to criticise (as you constantly prove with most of your posts on this subject ) yet very hard to actually do something.

Like all current politicians Cameron is full of hot air and little action. It appeases the likes of you and GC8WRX by making you feel your viewpoint is being noticed, yet it is not being addressed of course as that is too hard.
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What his speech fails to do is tell us how he intends to change anything. it is easy to criticise (as you constantly prove with most of your posts on this subject ) yet very hard to actually do something.
Politics in general.

Not once have I heard No ***** or the Sniffling Millimeter (seriously, The boy needs nasal surgery and elocution lessons) say one credible thing on how "they" intend to fix the current mess - all they have done thus far is throw snipes at the ConDems.


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