Breaking News 8:39am UK, Monday November 29, 2010 Iranian Nuclear Scientist Killed I
29 November 2010, 09:16 AM
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Breaking News 8:39am UK, Monday November 29, 2010 Iranian Nuclear Scientist Killed I
29 November 2010, 09:21 AM
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29 November 2010, 11:31 AM
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...and these were academics anyway, not actually clear they were even involved.
29 November 2010, 11:33 AM
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...and you believe Iranian state TV, the biggest liars going?
Mossad kill people when they are on holiday etc. No need to do it in Tehran, too risky.
....and how much does killing two academics actually delay the program?
Please....
Mossad kill people when they are on holiday etc. No need to do it in Tehran, too risky.
....and how much does killing two academics actually delay the program?
Please....
29 November 2010, 11:35 AM
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I'm guessing with PSL's immense driving experience and 'huge' torque, it would be unlikely an assassin woud ever get close enough?
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29 November 2010, 01:06 PM
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There are reports of some old duffer seen driving an MX5 through Tehran at the time.
01 December 2010, 12:07 AM
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01 December 2010, 12:21 AM
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01 December 2010, 12:24 AM
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And I believe you called ME dumb on a previous thread (which you managed to get closed) didn't you? Fancy that?
01 December 2010, 12:31 AM
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Same with nonsense about Zionist lobbies running foreign governments = repackaged old fashioned anti-semitic lies.
OTOH you see fit to label me an 'Islamophobe' based on nothing but that fact I discuss Islam a lot!
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01 December 2010, 12:44 AM
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Sure, if someone says that being Jewish 'explains a lot' then I am going to say they are an anti-Semite given that they have displayed prejudice against Jewish people.
Same with nonsense about Zionist lobbies running foreign governments = repackaged old fashioned anti-semitic lies.
OTOH you see fit to label me an 'Islamophobe' based on nothing but that fact I discuss Islam a lot!
Same with nonsense about Zionist lobbies running foreign governments = repackaged old fashioned anti-semitic lies.
OTOH you see fit to label me an 'Islamophobe' based on nothing but that fact I discuss Islam a lot!
And not all Jews are Semites. Did it occur to you that I might be Semitic myself? No, because you are too thick to even know what that phrase you love to use actually means.
It is a lovely way to stop people, who rightly criticise the illegal and despicable acts of the State of Israel, by invoking some sort of **** association.
Your overuse of the term, when you don't even know what it means, is disgusting.
I've called you an Islamophobe once, with a fair bit of evidence to back it up. You've called me Anti Semitic about a hundred times, with no proof whatsoever.
01 December 2010, 12:46 AM
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01 December 2010, 12:49 AM
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According to the former British Ambassador to Tehran, he reckons it was Mossad.
Now, let me think, who knows more, Tony de Knowitall, or the former British Ambassador...hmm...difficult one that.
01 December 2010, 12:54 AM
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01 December 2010, 12:58 AM
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I know that. Couldn't resist having a dig at him over it. His threads have really created a bad feeling here, as far as I can see and he has a lot of peoples' backs up. But I think that is what he wants.
I say delete all his threads and him! I don't see that he 'contributes' to the community.
01 December 2010, 01:05 AM
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Tony, you really are genuinely stupid. When did I say anything about 'Jewish' people? I don't think so. You never actually thought to stop and ask me to explain myself, you just jumped down my throat playing the 'Anti-Semitic' card.
And not all Jews are Semites. Did it occur to you that I might be Semitic myself? No, because you are too thick to even know what that phrase you love to use actually means.
It is a lovely way to stop people, who rightly criticise the illegal and despicable acts of the State of Israel, by invoking some sort of **** association.
Your overuse of the term, when you don't even know what it means, is disgusting.
And not all Jews are Semites. Did it occur to you that I might be Semitic myself? No, because you are too thick to even know what that phrase you love to use actually means.
It is a lovely way to stop people, who rightly criticise the illegal and despicable acts of the State of Israel, by invoking some sort of **** association.
Your overuse of the term, when you don't even know what it means, is disgusting.
Substitute my use of anti-semitism for anti-jewish then if it suits you pedantic sensibilities. It was all I meant.
**** anti-semitism was never anything BUT anti-jewish. They didn't have issues with all 'semites'.
But ask yourself what 'Islamophobe' actually means?
If one fears Islamic blasphemy laws is that 'Islamophobia'?
01 December 2010, 01:08 AM
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The fact you ignored it and bleat on about this program like it was some proof of something ad infinitum, makes me thing maybe you just have an anti-Israel agenda (actually you do given your above post) and don't care to actually debate.
01 December 2010, 01:15 AM
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I know what it means literally and what a 'semite' is but this is semantics, it is a word used to describe anti-jewish prejudice and hate in practice and by historical convention.
Substitute my use of anti-semitism for anti-jewish then if it suits you pedantic sensibilities. It was all I meant.
**** anti-semitism was never anything BUT anti-jewish. They didn't have issues with all 'semites'.
You used no evidence whatsoever.
But ask yourself what 'Islamophobe' actually means?
If one fears Islamic blasphemy laws is that 'Islamophobia'?
Substitute my use of anti-semitism for anti-jewish then if it suits you pedantic sensibilities. It was all I meant.
**** anti-semitism was never anything BUT anti-jewish. They didn't have issues with all 'semites'.
You used no evidence whatsoever.
But ask yourself what 'Islamophobe' actually means?
If one fears Islamic blasphemy laws is that 'Islamophobia'?
Did it even occurr to you that I might be Jewish, one of the Neturei Karta for instance?
As for evidence, are you kidding? Let me think...perhaps about the last 1,700 posts you have made in the two minutes that you have been a member of SN, which has been incessant ranting on about Islam and nothing else?
01 December 2010, 01:20 AM
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I replied to your post on this in the old thread with a counter-argument.
The fact you ignored it and bleat on about this program like it was some proof of something ad infinitum, makes me thing maybe you just have an anti-Israel agenda (actually you do given your above post) and don't care to actually debate.
The fact you ignored it and bleat on about this program like it was some proof of something ad infinitum, makes me thing maybe you just have an anti-Israel agenda (actually you do given your above post) and don't care to actually debate.
I even told you where to look so you could actually see for yourself, instead of a) just taking my word for it. b) dismissing evidence and facts with a little wave of your hand.
01 December 2010, 01:23 AM
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01 December 2010, 01:43 AM
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Israel never created modern Islamism and it's violant acolytes, it does not cause them or create the driver, yes it is a justification for their cause but so are many things...the crusades, French burka ban, western capitalism, Bosnia, Kashmir, cartoons...anything that can be used to paint a victimhood narrative and draw global politics down into local politics no matter how absurd. If it is not one thing it is the other.
Even if Israel was the demon you want it to be, you still can't explain logically why it compels say a Brit of Pakistani origin to strap a bomb to himself and blow up a tube station. Someone born into an environment which has NOTHING to do with any oppression of the Palestinians....where that conflict is nothing but an abstract.
Ok so volume is evidence of whatever you are accusing me of with no other evidence?
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01 December 2010, 01:49 AM
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What counter arguement? The one where you bleated about it not being the only lobby and basically couldn't be bothered to get off your **** to look for something all on your own?
I even told you where to look so you could actually see for yourself, instead of a) just taking my word for it. b) dismissing evidence and facts with a little wave of your hand.
I even told you where to look so you could actually see for yourself, instead of a) just taking my word for it. b) dismissing evidence and facts with a little wave of your hand.
Wow, stop the world!
There is a lobby and it is at work.
UNIQUE!