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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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About muslim schools teaching extremism etc

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Young kids taught Sharia law, homophobia, extremism, anti-semitism, Jews are subhuman etc. 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' taught as fact
Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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If this is a 'problem' then it needs to e dealt with, briefly watching the news this morning it appeared some 140 part-time schools operating evenings and weekends are teaching this Saudi based system based on the Koran to 11+ y/old and the teachings can be interpreted as you say.

I am sure they said due to the part time nature the schools are not regulated which is the real concern - for me anyway and the schools could be teaching anything which is just plain wrong. For the kids to attend the parents need to send them of course so is there a problem with some parents and this ideals???

The Saudis have disowned this but it appears that actually it is backed by the Saudi education ministry (paraphrasing) and i do wonder why they claim not to be involved when it appears that they are so.

All schooling and especially religious schools of all faith's should be closely monitored by true independent bodies for this type of hatred. If it does not fit with the UK's values and laws then it should not be taught - simple as that.

If people find it so hard to live by the UK's rules and customs then sensibly they would go somewhere more suited this of course leads us to why 'they' stay...
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It'll just be made up to further their right-wing agenda, a bit like that Guardian article.
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Corrected.

Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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well well well another anti muslim thread. quelle surprise. you lot didn't bat an eyelid when the prods and the taigs in northern ireland where killing each other with claw hammers, pulling people into black taxis on the shankill road and torturing them by pulling their teeth out with pliers, or drilling their knee caps off.

you guys need to get a sense of proportion.
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here we go again round 4637
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
well well well another anti muslim thread. quelle surprise. you lot didn't bat an eyelid when the prods and the taigs in northern ireland where killing each other with claw hammers, pulling people into black taxis on the shankill road and torturing them by pulling their teeth out with pliers, or drilling their knee caps off.

you guys need to get a sense of proportion.
Looking on the bright side - we are lending you micks money due to the mess you have got yourselves into - money we do not have either!

Oh and i think you will find a lot of British troops spent a lot of time and lost lives in NI during the conflicts with neither side helping the security forces out that much. Both sides hell bent on killing each other - a little like Iraq is currently with Sunni and shia Muslims murdering each other of a slight differences in faith oh and land.

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Well grow some *****, refute the points in the article and stop posturing like a feckin' victim, Banny.

P.s. Nobody's 'bashing Muslims'. It's radical Islamism that's being bashed. Whining from the sidelines adds nothing.

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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Looking on the bright side - we are lending you micks money due to the mess you have got yourselves into - money we do not have either!
Technically - he's also lending the micks money too
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Well grow some *****, refute the points in the article and stop posturing like a feckin' victim, Banny.

Errr NO, hows that?

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Originally Posted by banny sti
Errr NO, hows that?
Fine. Stop claiming victimhood then, it's pathetic. You do moderate Islam no favours by keeping quiet on the subject of radicalism. Instead of presenting a strong voice and reasoned argument you just bleat with these silly links and threads.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Fine. Stop claiming victimhood then, it's pathetic. You do moderate Islam no favours by keeping quiet on the subject of radicalism. Instead of presenting a strong voice and reasoned argument you just bleat with these silly links and threads.
Free country and all that, so I will continue as I please!
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Errr NO, hows that?
Adding smilies after the event to disguise the fact that you're actually pissed off.
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Free country and all that, so I will continue as I please!
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Adding smilies after the event to disguise the fact that you're actually pissed off.
That is exactly the reason I added the smilies, to indicate Im not pissed off before anyone took it like that. James if you think this petty **** on forum pisses me off then you really do not know me at all.

If it pissed me off to that extent I would do what ERA has done and stop posting completely

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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Well grow some *****, refute the points in the article and stop posturing like a feckin' victim, Banny.

P.s. Nobody's 'bashing Muslims'. It's radical Islamism that's being bashed. Whining from the sidelines adds nothing.

well done that man

People need to stop crying wolf every time a group of Muslim extremists are criticised for their actions.
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That is exactly the reason I added the smilies, to indicate Im not pissed off before anyone took it like that. James if you think this petty **** on forum pisses me off then you really do not know me at all.

If it pissed me off to that extent I would do what ERA has done and stop posting completely

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I get so frustrated that people like you and Maz remain silent on these issues. Take GC8WRX as an example: he's found some common ground with Mus (fairly moderate) and that'll help build brdges. I just don't get why you won't offer your perspective. The fact is, there are different flavours of Islam, and yours needs to be promoted for balance and so that people reading these threads understand that not all British Muslims are intolerant, anti-secular radicals. If you can't be arsed, then whilst you have the right to object it's validity is significantly watered down.
Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
That is exactly the reason I added the smilies, to indicate Im not pissed off before anyone took it like that. James if you think this petty **** on forum pisses me off then you really do not know me at all.

If it pissed me off to that extent I would do what ERA has done and stop posting completely

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Yep and then certain people would get what they want despite their protestation to the contrary!
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About time one of our mods did this....

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...ghlight=muslim
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
About time one of our mods did this....

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...ghlight=muslim
Or perhaps it is better to get things out in the open and discuss rather than a ban.

OK ban for personal attacks inciting violence spreading hatred yes - but discussing beliefs and side to any heated discussions is much better and healthier imho
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Or perhaps it is better to get things out in the open and discuss rather than a ban.

OK ban for personal attacks inciting violence spreading hatred yes - but discussing beliefs and side to any heated discussions is much better and healthier imho
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just wrote a massive rant about being accused of being racists for radical bashing and got 404 error
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Originally Posted by Lagamorph
just wrote a massive rant about being accused of being racists for radical bashing and got 404 error
It'll be the extremists taking over SN - RUN...run for the hills!
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Or perhaps it is better to get things out in the open and discuss rather than a ban.

OK ban for personal attacks inciting violence spreading hatred yes - but discussing beliefs and side to any heated discussions is much better and healthier imho
Agreed.... but do we need so many threads about the same thing?

How many Muslim threads have there been in the last few months?

It isn't an issue to me personally as i ignore most of them, but untill the retards who can't tell the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim Extremist stop stirring crap, people will get offended.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
About time one of our mods did this....

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...ghlight=muslim
I have made no secret that this subject is being done to death, but it's a current issue and no doubt in time (like any other popular topic) it will settle down.

My view may not be supported by other moderators, and by all means my POV isn't necessarily how things will go, but I'm not sure we are here to prevent discussions. Everyone has the right to freedom of speech and I think our role is more to act if things start becoming personal and aggressive. Pretty much what Paul has said.

It may appear this is all Muslim bashing, but reading the views, it appears to be looking at a minority element within the religion as a whole.

I'm just not sure banning discussions is the right step to take. Surely by talking and hearing all the different views of a broad community, it is a better way to educate each other, and possibly open each others minds. So long as threads don't get nasty, I don't see how we can ban them or people.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Agreed.... but do we need so many threads about the same thing?

How many Muslim threads have there been in the last few months?

It isn't an issue to me personally as i ignore most of them, but untill the retards who can't tell the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim Extremist stop stirring crap, people will get offended.
simple - ignore them, ignore the person and/or the thread



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