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23 August 2010, 12:52 PM
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hi, does anyone know anything about the above,
we have got a brown cockapoo, its a nice little dog and the wive's mate is desperate for her dog (another cockapoo) to have pups with ours,
its only 7 months old, how much should she ask for and is it old enough yet,
the puppies seem to be going for 4-600gbp.
we wont have any of the mither i dont suppose , but whats is the norm in such cases
thanks in advance
we have got a brown cockapoo, its a nice little dog and the wive's mate is desperate for her dog (another cockapoo) to have pups with ours,
its only 7 months old, how much should she ask for and is it old enough yet,
the puppies seem to be going for 4-600gbp.
we wont have any of the mither i dont suppose , but whats is the norm in such cases
thanks in advance
23 August 2010, 01:01 PM
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no where near old enough mate. 18mth - 2 years before I put a dog to stud. a proven dog that can throw a good litter of pups, i would charge the price of a pup as a fee. a novice dog will be considerably less. you will usually have 2 mating sessions in which the dog must tie with the bitch. he will probably need a helping hand the first time ( you might need to turn him so thier backsides are together). small litter 1 or 2 or no pregnancy i would offer a freebie to the owner of the bitch next time around.
btw what is a cockapoo? is it a cocker/poodle cross?
btw what is a cockapoo? is it a cocker/poodle cross?
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23 August 2010, 01:12 PM
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Usually you get the pick of the litter or the financial equivalent unless you have a proven champion dog where you can charge more.
7 months is way too young, the dog needs to be double that at least
7 months is way too young, the dog needs to be double that at least
23 August 2010, 01:15 PM
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As Sinky says around 2 years before a dog should sire a litter. The same age for the Dam too. Anything before that age can have an effect on the dog's future health and even their growth.
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23 August 2010, 01:42 PM
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As others have said, at the very least both should be 2 years old. Fee depends on a few things, lineage being one of them, for example if you dogs parents were show champions then that can be very beneficial. I think age is also so the dog themselves may be a show winner and thus that again needs to be be considered in the fee
Not sure if you would get as much for a mixed breed as for a pure dog, I guess it depends on the desire fir the breed.
Oh and you should not just breed to make money, it is a little crass.
Not sure if you would get as much for a mixed breed as for a pure dog, I guess it depends on the desire fir the breed.
Oh and you should not just breed to make money, it is a little crass.
I still believe it's called a mungrel!!
23 August 2010, 02:59 PM
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hmmmm.........puppy farms not good. having said that my oldest lad (sadly now my only one) sired over 100 puppies during his career as a stud dog and believe it or not i knew every one of the breeders, all good friends
23 August 2010, 05:57 PM
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not sure on stud fee, as others have said on the age but our jack Russell managed to knock our bitch up when he was 10 months old (accident)
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23 August 2010, 06:30 PM
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This site is worth a look http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/1016
I have a pedigree GSD with a very long lineage (is that the word). I am NOT allowed to put him to stud. If I did, the litter would not be recognised and therefore would not be added to his family document, registered with the Kennel Club. I would imagine that would drastically reduce any stud fee.
Same with my Blue Point Siamese.
I have a pedigree GSD with a very long lineage (is that the word). I am NOT allowed to put him to stud. If I did, the litter would not be recognised and therefore would not be added to his family document, registered with the Kennel Club. I would imagine that would drastically reduce any stud fee.
Same with my Blue Point Siamese.
23 August 2010, 06:34 PM
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Cockapoos are not recognised as a purebreed, not sure if they are worth anything as stud as the offspring would be a pretty mixed bunch 
The Americans are trying to breed a "pure" cockapoo which could be recognised as a true "pedigree"......... probably quite a long way off .
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The Americans are trying to breed a "pure" cockapoo which could be recognised as a true "pedigree"......... probably quite a long way off .
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23 August 2010, 07:01 PM
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23 August 2010, 07:06 PM
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Because the dogs have a mixed up set of genes there is no certainty that the pups will will look like a cockerpoo............they might look more like Spaniels or more like poodles.
The pups if they come out like cockerpoos are worth something.......... LOL
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The pups if they come out like cockerpoos are worth something.......... LOL
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23 August 2010, 08:22 PM
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Worth asking the owner of the bitch...
Originally Posted by Kennel Club
If you are contemplating dog breeding, there are certain questions that you will need to ask yourself before proceeding:
Have I the time to devote to a litter until the puppies are old enough to go to their new homes, which is usually around eight weeks?
Am I knowledgeable enough to advise new owners about the various aspects of caring for their puppies, including rearing, diet, training and health problems? Can I afford to pay for the recommended health tests for the bitch prior to mating her and, where necessary, her litter?
Do I know enough to help the bitch during the whelping, if necessary?
Can I afford to pay for a caesarean should the dam have difficulty whelping the litter?
Could I cope with a very large litter of, say, 10 or 12 puppies?
Do I have sufficient knowledge to rear the litter correctly, including on worming, vaccinations and socialisation?
Would I be able to find good homes for the puppies?
Am I in a position to take back or re-home any puppies if it becomes necessary?
If you have not been able to say yes to all of the above questions, then dog breeding may not be for you. You may therefore wish to consider having your bitch spayed to prevent unwanted or unplanned pregnancies; your breed club or the breeder of your bitch may be able to provide you with further expert advice.
If you have been able to say yes to all of the above questions, do not forget that you will also need to keep the following in mind:
Responsible dog breeders believe that each litter that they breed, should be an improvement on the parents.
Responsible dog breeders give careful consideration to health issues, temperament and soundness.
Responsible dog breeders plan ahead of each mating so as to ensure that each puppy produced will be bred in the best possible environment.
Responsible dog breeders accept responsibility for a puppy which they have bred, and make themselves available to give advice, help and information to new owners.
Have I the time to devote to a litter until the puppies are old enough to go to their new homes, which is usually around eight weeks?
Am I knowledgeable enough to advise new owners about the various aspects of caring for their puppies, including rearing, diet, training and health problems? Can I afford to pay for the recommended health tests for the bitch prior to mating her and, where necessary, her litter?
Do I know enough to help the bitch during the whelping, if necessary?
Can I afford to pay for a caesarean should the dam have difficulty whelping the litter?
Could I cope with a very large litter of, say, 10 or 12 puppies?
Do I have sufficient knowledge to rear the litter correctly, including on worming, vaccinations and socialisation?
Would I be able to find good homes for the puppies?
Am I in a position to take back or re-home any puppies if it becomes necessary?
If you have not been able to say yes to all of the above questions, then dog breeding may not be for you. You may therefore wish to consider having your bitch spayed to prevent unwanted or unplanned pregnancies; your breed club or the breeder of your bitch may be able to provide you with further expert advice.
If you have been able to say yes to all of the above questions, do not forget that you will also need to keep the following in mind:
Responsible dog breeders believe that each litter that they breed, should be an improvement on the parents.
Responsible dog breeders give careful consideration to health issues, temperament and soundness.
Responsible dog breeders plan ahead of each mating so as to ensure that each puppy produced will be bred in the best possible environment.
Responsible dog breeders accept responsibility for a puppy which they have bred, and make themselves available to give advice, help and information to new owners.
24 August 2010, 12:23 AM
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This site is worth a look http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/1016
I have a pedigree GSD with a very long lineage (is that the word). I am NOT allowed to put him to stud. If I did, the litter would not be recognised and therefore would not be added to his family document, registered with the Kennel Club. I would imagine that would drastically reduce any stud fee.
Same with my Blue Point Siamese.
I have a pedigree GSD with a very long lineage (is that the word). I am NOT allowed to put him to stud. If I did, the litter would not be recognised and therefore would not be added to his family document, registered with the Kennel Club. I would imagine that would drastically reduce any stud fee.
Same with my Blue Point Siamese.
I would also imagine that you would be prohibited from showing the dog in any acreddited shows, so you would be unable to turn you dog into a show champ
as you say the stud fee would also be diminshed due to breaking the restriction
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24 August 2010, 08:36 AM
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That sounds as if the breeder has put a breeding restriction on the dog. A breeder friend of mine dies exactly that with her pups, and it is to avoid somone getting a pup and using them to start a puppy farm. Ok so it does not physically restrict things but if you try and register the pups with the kc and give the name of the sire or dam and there is a restriction in place then the kc won't be best pleased and neither will the breeder.
I would also imagine that you would be prohibited from showing the dog in any acreddited shows, so you would be unable to turn you dog into a show champ
as you say the stud fee would also be diminshed due to breaking the restriction
I would also imagine that you would be prohibited from showing the dog in any acreddited shows, so you would be unable to turn you dog into a show champ
as you say the stud fee would also be diminshed due to breaking the restriction
Shame really, as he is a beaut with a fantastic personality
24 August 2010, 11:59 AM
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I think as someone else has said, if you did want to put him to stud you could always ask the breeder and see what they say. I believe they can, if they wish, remove the restriction on a specific animal, I could be wrong though. No doubt the breeder would want some kind of fee for doing this and allowing you to breed.
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