pslewis

... but sod all else at the moment!!

Come on, Tories and LibDems, let's get on with it and nail the economy ...... 3 years of pain and then some gain.

I am liking what I am hearing, but please let's get on with it!!!!!!!

1. Benefits - paid in Tesco's or LIDL's Vouchers - for food only.

2. Child Benefit, First Child £25 a week - every other child, £ZERO.

3. Winter Fuel Allowance - ban it, most Pensioners I know are damned well off.

4. Tax - one rate of 33% whatever you earn - starting at £25,000 (under this Zero Tax).

5. Savings not taken into account for benefits - if you have paid in for decades and need help you will get it.

6. Stamp Duty - 3% across the board, starting point £250,000.

7. Road Tax on Fuel ... the more you drive, the more you pay.

8. Families who make others lives a misery to be shipped off to a Council Estate in the centre of Glasgow or one of the outer Isles, where they can annoy the hell out of each other.

9. Dentists to repay the public financing of their training by being required to do 5 years in the NHS - serving the people who have paid for their training.

10. The Unemployed to do Community work, or NO BENEFITS!

And, finally, scumbag chavs to be castrated after their 13th birthday ..... stop the scum breeding. Failing that, pick a fight with China and send the Chavs in to fight them in the paddy fields (should get rid of most)

Get a move on Cameron and Clegg!!

GlesgaKiss

All ok except the stamp duty. And you haven't mentioned cuts. Cut all the waste in the public sector, all the parasites doing 'services' that don't really benefit anybody, or that could be done better by the private sector.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Lots of talk and no action: Bit like scoobynet really, eh?

(thought I'd get that one in first)


edit: Just properly read Pete's post, and I'm almost in full agreeance

SJ_Skyline

Whilst point 2 unfairly penalises all of the members here with twins I'm still voting for the Pete Party

Coffin Dodger

Pete, you've become so right wing lately that I'm almost starting to believe that you voted for Cameron in the last election.

Soon you'll be singing the praises of the coalition

dpb

Typically selfish of your champgne socialist ,as we all know Lewis to be , blow you jack im all right

Plenty penshioners will actually NEED that fuel allowance

dpb

Youve clearly got a problem with Dentsists as well - Probably too many sweets when younger

Why not just have em all out if you wnat to save money



Also , what are you going to do if you drive for a living

pslewis

As for cuts .... well, I wouldn't cut jobs, I would cut spending - in the whole.

There are areas for cuts, like NHS Managers ..... for example.

But cutting jobs cuts knackers other areas ... spending from those people, taxes paid by those people.

pslewis

You do what you do now ..... claim the tax back, no problems there then?

GlesgaKiss

We don't want spending though, we want increased productivity. My thinking is cut the drains of public service (the aspects we don't need), and let them get productive jobs instead - in the private sector. The only problem is that government is still trying to get people to spend, still trying to prop up house prices, etc and keep interest rates low to fuel it all.

The spending you're talking about is the problem with our economy. There are so many jobs now based on the idea of a 'consumer' economy, but I think the reality is that that part needs to shrink, those jobs need to be lost, etc, before the economy can properly recover. Obviously this is not a very 'politics friendly' issue... the thought of all those people's jobs and all those services being lost before they can be employed again somewhere else.

richs2891

crikey PSLewis is starting to make sense, has his account being hijacked !

Richard

richs2891

Double post again !

Leslie

Quite a lot of sense in what you say, not all of it though.

How can you cut spending without some job losses though? How about the monster list of non jobs for the Government instituted by your heroes? Made the jobless total look better of course but those paying taxes had to pay them for nothing worthwhile! Taking tax off them did not pay for their salaries of course-that was a dead loss plus! Many of them turn up for work not knowing what they should be doing! It was all done on borrowed cash.

We can't carry on any longer borrowing to pay for all those useless jobs, we are already using the money which effectively belongs to our grandchildren and beyond that!

Gross mismanagement and feckless spending by your heroes have put us in this situation. It is their fault if jobs are lost, had they kept the economy strong this situation would not be happening.

Hope you had a nice holiday!

Les

pslewis

Hi Les - thanks, had a nice break away ......

What you seem to forget is that Labour did not cause the Worldwide Economic meltdown, unless of course, on your planet, New Labour were also in charge of America, Greece, Ireland, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Australia, etc., etc.

dpb

Australia ???

Chip

Chip

Pete,

We had 13 years of spend ,spend, spend. Where did they think the money was coming from then?

chip

pslewis

We did indeed have 13 solid years of growth ...... it was all paid for, we were in credit for many years!!!!

All of a sudden the world (including Australia) had their collective economies collapse ... nothing could have protected us from that, to think otherwise shows a certain lack of common sense to be honest.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Pslewis is the single best argument as to why class a drugs should not be legalised.

Snazy

Crikey thats a hell of a lot of work left to do after 13 years of amazing leadership. If thats only whats left, Brown and Blair must have done LOADS !

Where were all these ideas when your precious was in power Pete

PaulC72

Pete I agree with the majority of that too.

What I don't understand is why we as a country supposidly in a financial crisis can justify sending multi million pounds worth of aid to Pakistan to help with flood.

I feel sorry for the people suffering but surely we should sort out this country first before doing anything to help others.

Ginola

iTrader: (25)

sorry pete, but at 13 years old chavs already have 3 kids and a council flat , it needs to happen at birth tbh !

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Child benefit for just the first, the other two incur school fees you know !

As for most pensioners are well off, er, no, they arent !

Most of it I agree with.

pslewis

Because, to be honest, there is a lot of difference between losing your house, livestock, family and future in a disaster than losing SKY Sports because the UK debt needs to be paid off.

pslewis

Why should we pay for the other two?

Indeed, it could be argued that we shouldn't pay for ANY child ..... it's not like we need more people, is it?

In that case, they will get help ..... but why should a rich pensioner, living in Spain maybe? Get heating allowance from the age of 60? Hell, most people are still working at 60!!!

You could have the situation where a 61 year old Executive on £500,000 a year is also getting £250 heating allowance!!!! Effectively, we are paying to heat his swimming pool for a month!! And it ain't on anymore!

That's a start I suppose

dpb

You dont hoinestly think its a striaght gift ! or do you ?

Ian

iTrader: (10)

what about all the immergrants and other spongers who shouldnt be here?

dpb

Totally if we exported all our indigenous spongers tomorrow we'd be in the black this time next month

GlesgaKiss

Now we know you're still trolling. You really just think that all of a sudden banks started making losses and the country was in recession for no reason? The only thing that grew was the consumer burdon on the economy. GDP figures might have grown, but that's not real economic growth, it's certainly not a sign of real increases in production of wealth.