StickyMicky

http://passionford.com/forum/general...apphire-1.html

Unbelievable.

I hope whoever did it is suffering now, death is ****.

SJ_Skyline

That is f'ing unbelieveable, those are plasterboard rawl-plugs (used them in our old flat - sharp enough to cut your finger on). Poor guys, never stood a chance

Whoever did that clearly has no idea of consequences.

Ant

not good news . RiP

scooby L

RIP to the driver

(Interesting to see PF have the same "Holier than thou" posters as SN)

jonny_693

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Been following this on pistonheads as well. Unbeleivable.

warrenm2

for people who dont want to read the thread, a fatal accident was caused by the looks of it by someone gluing nails to the road. Guy hits nails, has blow out and has fatal accident

belliott69

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RIP to the young lads but it does make you wonder how much someone round there must of taken to go to the trouble of mastiking a load of plasterboard screws down. they'd have to be pretty ****ed off to do it.

Leslie

Difficult to know what happened with the information available. Looks as though some prat put nails in the road to burst the tyres of someone driving very fast. Even if he was annoyed at the driving and that would depend as much as anything on the place where it was being done, taking an action like that has proved that it can cause death and of course could have also killed innocent bystanders as well. The man who did that should get it well and truly in the neck if they ever catch him.

Les

RA Dunk

That's a fair point TBH.

Two wrongs dont make a right though.

belliott69

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oh definatley not, i certainly couldn't find myself doing it and think it was highly stupid of the person, but without hindsight in a 30/40 mph limit i expect they couldn't of seen that happening.

Jamz3k

As much as I don't agree with the actions taken by putting screws on the road, I can't help but wonder if dangerous driving was the main cause? I had a tyre let go on me at 50mph with it being ripped to shreds and it didn't take much to control it, so what speed was this fella doing to cause that amount of damage in a 30/40mph zone?

chocolate_o_brian

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Wasn't on Swiss Tony's street was it

StickyMicky

This is true, i had a wheel fall off completely at 70mph once on a dual carrigeway and i survived, although in was driving in a straight line at the time, surprisingly easy to control the car on 3 wheels and a brake disc, once you get over the shock of seeing your front wheel overtake you

I think 40mph sideways into a kerb or something would be enough to roll it, but i would agree they were probably going faster.

CAT2

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FWIW, the scariest thing that ever happened to me was a front tyre blowout on a GPZ1000RX at 120ish (as a much younger man on a private motorway, obviously )! Things were fine (if a bit vague) until I got down to about 75mph, then got the worst slapper I've ever felt going on. one of the bars actually dented the tank!! Thought it was going to spit me off and it didn't go away until I was virtually at walking pace. Made me feel very mortal and vulnerable.

That someone would act so irresponsibly is shocking, even if they were p*ssed off by people hooning about.

davyboy

Love the irony that a few posters want to firebomb the home, or give the people who laid the screws a good kicking.

...what if they kicked them once to many times, or maybe put a bit too much petrol in bottle.

spider

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Jeez!

How come there hasn't been any major splash in the news about this though - no-one on the PF thread seems to have found anything online. Surely a fatal RTC merits something on an online newspaper etc., even when some consider them a "common" occurrence?

ALi-B

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Easily: 20mph would be enough (10mph will roll a SUV) .

40mph into one of those concrete walls ain't going to pleasant. It doesn't deform, the only thing you can pray for is to hit it at such an angle that the car spins round and washes off the speed (you'll still have neck injuries from the whiplash trying to rip your head off). So at higher speed you are at the will of the gods.

I think to appreciate the forces involved in a low speed crash, one has to experience it first hand; a 40mph collision head-on into a solid non-deformable object (no braking, no spinning or glancing blows) will put you in hospital. So a higher speed is only worse.

And the strength of an old Saphy is not brilliant. If anyone gets the chance to look underneath one, look at the size and thickness of the metal used in the sills and chassis rails and then compare it to a modern Mondeo. Its like night and day. Its one reason why a Mondeo 2.5T weighs 375kg more than a 2wd Saphy Cosworth.

I must be getting old, as these days when I happen to start tanking it down a fast road, I suddenly think "what happens if I have a blow out" Answer "I'd be dead, and probably take out a few others in the process". When I was younger, I never gave it a second thought, hell when it nearly did happen I just laughed it off .

Lee247

Just read that whole thread. It's terrible.
The thing that turned my stomach was someone who was there at the time, said some people were recording it on their phones and laughing at one of the injured who was having a fit. What kind of sick people are there in the world
I sincerely hope they get the twisted individual who stuck those nails to the road.
Absolutely tragic

Lee247

FFS, this double posting is worse than ever

gallois

theres a right fkin arseh0le on there 'warrenpenalver' slagging the now deceased driver off for his driving, basically spouting the mantra 'speed kills' insensitive ****.

Mitchy260

Can't find anything of this accident in the media.

StickyMicky

Wonder if the lad who pulled them from the car thinking it was going to turn into a fireball, inadvertently caused one of them to be paralysed the way he has ended up.

Nightmare.

Torquemada

Nasty. Streetracing ain't the best idea but that's no way for someone to try and sort it. RIP

TonyBurns

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That really is shocking and they probably dont have a hope in hell of catching whoever put those screws (glued those screws) to the road

R.I.P to the driver though I feel sorry for the one called Lumpy who blames himself for getting one of the lads out who is paralysed, if anything he saved him from potentially burning to death, and the last thing you want to to remember the screams of that for the rest of your life

Tony

davyboy

I thought in first aid, if they can scream and make noise they might be in a better state than those just laying around?

Steve vRS

Unless where they are lying is soaked in petrol....

DCI Gene Hunt

Yes, potentially but you should still make sure they're not in mortal danger or bleeding to death...

jods

Ouch - just saw a picture of the wreck and also of the plasterboard screws masticked to the road.

Perhaps this IS a road that warrants a speed camera and regular Police patrols.

I'm NOT condoning the action taken by whoever stuck them to the road -But I CAN understand the frustration someone may have felt if nothing was done about repeated full bore passes - especially if in a residential area. This was NOT the way to sort it out and I can't believe their intention was to end up causing someone to die or be seriously injured - IMHO, it points to a family person - probably a man with kids under 10 or 11.
He won't be upper quartile IQ - Probably mid 90's IQ perhaps 100.

Fingerprints are likely to be difficult to get I expect?

ALi-B

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If they had a suspect, they'd probably get forensics on his nails and find some reminants of the same mastic.

They also be able to find what brand plasterboard screw and brand/type of mastic.

What I don't understand though is how someone can glue these to the road without a) being run over b) witnesses c) other cars being involved or damaged. Its not exactly something you can just nip out and do (i.e get fixing, blob on mastic, place on road, repeat, repeat repeat etc).

paul ull sti

i know this road because i work at excel alot its in the middle off nowhere really you dont get much traffic there, most off the time its 7.5 t trucks that use it