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Old 03 August 2010, 08:34 PM
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Just started to learn and enjoying the challenge. But the golf world seems divided in to normal people and to~~ers. The latter seem intent on making the sport as inaccessible as possible for those they see as below them. So sad. So many must be put off learning the game with this kind of attitude. Is it just me?
Old 03 August 2010, 09:15 PM
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No, it's not just you. I have played for years, and this problem was rife, but I have to say, these people are very much in the minority now.

Could be you have just chosen a snobby club, there are still a few around.

Persevere!

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I know what you mean mate, i play most weekends now after getting into it over the past few years
Like you say there does seem a very obvious split in the type of people that play the game, i just ignore it TBH and enjoy a good morning on the course with some mates

Just make sure you've got the right shoes as these really save you slipping and getting caked in mud, also help keep the green in good nick.
Soccer sports do some great cheap equipment if your only just getting into it, so no need to spend a fortune on expensive makes!
My clubs cost me £109 including the bag and i go round in the nigh 90's so there fine for someone at my standard
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Originally Posted by sprigeteer
Just started to learn and enjoying the challenge. But the golf world seems divided in to normal people and to~~ers. The latter seem intent on making the sport as inaccessible as possible for those they see as below them. So sad. So many must be put off learning the game with this kind of attitude. Is it just me?
Thats the reason i've never joined a golf club(stuck up tw*ts)
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lol i know exactly where your coming from , ive been a life member of a very well known championship course up this direction , my parents are very golfy golfy i went golfing with them last week (1st time ive played a round in 3 years and i very much regret my time out) it was hilarious , theres my folks respectable descent folk and i could just see the reactions on folk's faces Oh my god theres that son of theres !!

Covered in tattoo's used to be a bit of a wild child but in all honesty settled down and trying to enjoy a good round !!

Dont care what anyone thinks mate just enjoy what your doing , im going golfing again on Friday and planning making it quite regular as i used to years ago .....

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Originally Posted by sprigeteer
But the golf world seems divided in to normal people and to~~ers.
Actually, in my experience, it's divided into people who understand the etiquette of the game and those who don't. Unfortunately, there seem to be more of the latter around these days.
Old 03 August 2010, 10:58 PM
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Just started to learn and enjoying the challenge. But the golf world seems divided in to normal people and to~~ers.
There's a simple solution to that - take up squash or cycling instead

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Old 03 August 2010, 11:27 PM
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I've just taken up Golf and i play at a little pay as you go nine hole course and like every newbie,i slice,hook and top the ball .There are some good players who play there and I've been quite surprised how many have stopped and given me advice.
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Actually, in my experience, it's divided into people who understand the etiquette of the game and those who don't. Unfortunately, there seem to be more of the latter around these days.
Etiquette is a learnt art and many pleasant golfers understand this and help. I was given some great advice just yesterday on how to properly repair a pitching mark on greens. The slightly more unpleasant ones, lets call them to~~ers for the sake of continuity, see it as a chance to put people down and highten their own sense of golfing security. I suspect that takes as long to learn as the game itself. There are a mind boggling array of rules and regulations. Do we honestly think everyone is going to know them ad verbatim? Should I be swinging like Tiger too? Sinking 20 footers on every green?

Luckily I've found a very friendly club with decent people and I'm having lessons to help me learn. But if someone waves a finger at me on the course because I have not conformed to a piece of etiquette, I can see me snapping it off in a fit of golfing rage.
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Are you allowed to use a pitching wedge on the greens then?

It looks an expensive hobby. Our local club charges £700 for a year's membership fee and casual green fees are £40.

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Are you allowed to use a pitching wedge on the greens then?

It looks an expensive hobby. Our local club charges £700 for a year's membership fee and casual green fees are £40.

Les
Thats pretty cheap if the course is half decent Les.

Personally I'm a fan of the golf etiquette, and being brutally honest its not a difficult concept. Not everyone is going to be a fantastic golfer however as long as you maintain a decent rate of play, dont put anyone in danger, dress to the rules, and repair pitch marks and replace divots its a doddle.

I have asked people to tuck their shirts in on the course before, and had people removed from the course because their attire was a joke. Rules are there for everyone, and if adhered to can help maintain the standards required by all.

Its a great sport to play, dont worry too much about all the rules as yet, as long as you know the main ones. If you start to play in club competitions definately ask some questions about the format and any rules you should be aware of before hand.

Good luck and have fun
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I joined this a while ago...
http://www.devere.co.uk/golf/members...vere-club.html

Play the wee demon mostly and been to Carrick once so far, but hope to try a couple others in the future.
Old 04 August 2010, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
their attire was a joke.


So you wouldn't be happy with this then?
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
Thats pretty cheap if the course is half decent Les.

Personally I'm a fan of the golf etiquette, and being brutally honest its not a difficult concept. Not everyone is going to be a fantastic golfer however as long as you maintain a decent rate of play, dont put anyone in danger, dress to the rules, and repair pitch marks and replace divots its a doddle.

I have asked people to tuck their shirts in on the course before, and had people removed from the course because their attire was a joke. Rules are there for everyone, and if adhered to can help maintain the standards required by all.

Its a great sport to play, dont worry too much about all the rules as yet, as long as you know the main ones. If you start to play in club competitions definately ask some questions about the format and any rules you should be aware of before hand.

Good luck and have fun
Well we are out in the sticks so to speak and i can only imagine what it would cost nearer London or whatever.

I would certainly enjoy having a go again, when we went overseas to a US airfield for a weekend or so, my whole crew used to hire clubs and go out for a round. One of the navigators was pretty good but the rest of us provided the entertainment! Great sport. I once hit a car windscreen with rare successful drive on the municipal course in Washington DC and had to hide behind a tree until he went away again!

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Originally Posted by EddScott


So you wouldn't be happy with this then?

On the contrary - his shirt is tucked in.


Sorry Fitz
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luckily golf snobbery happens alot less than it used to, but you can still find the odd one.

there's a club near me that i know a few guys at, all nice blokes and fun to play golf with. but the club is a fookin nightmare, there's even certain chairs you can't sit in because it's so-and-so's chair (no,really) but the course is superb and well run.

compare it to my club that's a bit like a social club, you'll always have a great, fun round of golf but there's so many things wrong with the running it's untrue

i guess, the best thing is to look at why they're being tossers.

if it's because you've walked in front of them or you're talking Dom Jolly style into your mobile then yeah, people will get the ****.
if on the other hand they're just being a **** because you're the new guy learning and they look down on you a bit then **** 'em, ignore them and find someone better to play with, there's loads of nice golfers out there
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
On the contrary - his shirt is tucked in.


Sorry Fitz
Haha, technically his outfit isnt too far from the mark, lose the comical hat and you could probably get on the course, plus fours, shirt with a collar, shirt tucked in, socks and golf shoes too
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
Personally I'm a fan of the golf etiquette, and being brutally honest its not a difficult concept... as long as you maintain a decent rate of play...
Yeah, that's what I was on about really - a lot of people don't realise that it's not acceptable to take 5 hours to play a round of golf just because the pros do.

My club certainly has its fair share of t**sers - there seem to be a lot of cliques and it's only a municipal. Me; I'm happy to play with anyone!
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Actually, in my experience, it's divided into people who understand the etiquette of the game and those who don't. Unfortunately, there seem to be more of the latter around these days.
tell me about it, our club has now discided to allow Jeans and Trainers in the club house!!!!!
You know what that can of worms has opened up for what ppl wear.

Its sad but standards keep dropping.
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Whats wrong with wearing jeans?
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Whats wrong with wearing jeans?

look at it like this, its like pubs getting rid of the public bar and the lounge, then just having an open plan bar lounge area.

Allowing jeans opens up 'workmen' coming in from a days work for a drink wearing their jeans they've been wearing doing the plastering painting building etc, sitting on the 'lounge' seats wearing their dirty work clothes. Maybe you don't wan to sit in the same seat after when you go out on a Friday night when you or your wife have got some nice clothes on on your Friday night out?

So the same principle can now be applied in the golf club, yes wear jeans but wear do you stop when someone comes in in scruffy dirty jeans they been working in all day.


Do you sit on your best sofa at home when you've got your scruffy work clothes on, I know I don't at home.


It just comes down to keeping a standard and sadly now days standards are being dropped. You only need to see how chavs live to see how society can change over a short period of time.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Whats wrong with wearing jeans?
It's about respecting the traditions of the game. If that means nothing to someone, then maybe they should try a different sport!
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
tell me about it, our club has now discided to allow Jeans and Trainers in the club house!!!!!
You know what that can of worms has opened up for what ppl wear.

Its sad but standards keep dropping.
Could even lead to people wearing string vests, as the holidaymakers do on a warm day round here!

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Being serious though, I don't find it an issue to look smart on the golf course - I don't play but may well take it up shortly because my daughter is having lessons and is enjoying it immensly - we also employ a young girl who is a local womens champion which I think has been the catalyst to my daughter liking it so much (something girls can do and do well if you get me)

The snob thing I will not stand for and will say as much if someone looks down on me and mine - I had issue with the clickly nature of my old hobby of RC car racing. You'd get the big boys looking smug and just ignoring anyone who wasn't in the A final week in week out - complete idiots that made new starters very unwelcome.
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The Golf club I'm in is great , they do have standards but it is very relaxed , It's more like a rugby club ! anyone attempting to be the big I am there would be promptly shown the door lol , they do have standards of dress codes on the course , you can wear shorts but not the knee length with side pockets , or bermuda shorts , tailored shorts like chino's ect , and tee shirts must have collars and be tucked in , I have been to clubs that require full length trousers , or if wearing shorts you must have full length socks ! and everyone competing for the poshest car in the car park , thats not my cup of tea , but I really do enjoy giving people like that a whooping when playing team events against them because it does bring them down a peg or two

I play for our club that play in a league in south Wales for 10 - 17 handicappers , Our club played against Newport a few weeks ago , and that is a strict club , apparently they only let women in the bar in the last year ! the 2 guys me and my partner played against were a pair of t0ssers ! looking down at us , and just there attitude , we beat them 7 & 6 , we usually have a meal after the game and a quick speech by both captains , all fairly low key , the 2 guys we played got in their cars straight after the match and went

I played last night , halfway up the motorway I phoned my son in work , to confirm I had left my battery for my trolley behind , and I played a course with a few cardiac hills last night , I'm aching like hell today lol , my bag is too heavy to carry ! I had all my wet weather gear , towels , brollys everything bar the kitchen sink lol it was like carrying an engine about

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Do you let Negro's into these golf clubs?

I only wear jeans so I'd like to say, I'm out.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Do you let Negro's into these golf clubs?

I only wear jeans so I'd like to say, I'm out.
All clubs are different, some still require a shirt and tie to access the bar, some more modern clubs with sports members for the gym etc are more relaxed and jeans can be worn in the club. They all have different rules, and as such each clubs rules should be respected.

I get the impression you think its a bad thing that the clubs have dress codes?
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Do you let Negro's into these golf clubs?

I only wear jeans so I'd like to say, I'm out.
only if they're a doctor
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I don't play golf, but work on a farm where they have just constructed a full size golf course. The clubhouse is almost completed, but whilst that was getting built, they were using a portacabin type thing.
You see the golfers come swanking in (some of them, not all) boasting and generally showing off. When they leave, after paying, you would not believe the stuff that has gone missing.
They come across as right snobs but it is still not beneath them to swipe a few things. Even if its just a can of pop or a choccy bar.
We've even had a full book of tickets taken
Scum comes from all walks of life
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
I get the impression you think its a bad thing that the clubs have dress codes?
Not at all, I think its a good thing but as I only wear jeans i'd find it hard knowing what to wear!


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