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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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An interesting report on the usefulness of speed cameras and the new direction and stance the government seem to be taking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10723343

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Let's hope they scrap the plans for those smart average speed cameras too.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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I'll be the first - Yay!!
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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I cannot see it happening.

The goverment is strapped for cash and these cameras are (unfortunately for us) an incredible source of revenue.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Let's hope they scrap the plans for those smart average speed cameras too.
They`ve already started work on those
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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i have no problems with using ANPR cameras, but speed cameras i despise
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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the link was a clip of devon SUPERB HAPPY DAYS redundancy notices in the post for the speed gestapo workers as well what a bonus . bit early though xmas isnt till december . 25% cut in spending on it that may actually mean plod will have to work for a living now instead of sitting in a van taking photos
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
I cannot see it happening.

The goverment is strapped for cash and these cameras are (unfortunately for us) an incredible source of revenue.
I know there's a long way to go but any publicity like this and news of a reduction is very welcome.

What's this new smart average speed camera thing? Dont like the sound of that.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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They're just installing two new ones up the road from me.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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But what are they? I cant find them on a google search.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
But what are they? I cant find them on a google search.
AFAIK, they can have a camera in Kent and a camera in Cumbria and can work out if you broke the speed limit between the two (and between any other camera you may pass on the way!)
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(If I used words, Id use words I shouldn't.)
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Thats fine, get rid of the fixed cameras ..... let's get many more mobile units!

Speeders know where cameras are - hidden cars and vans are much better at catching the irresponsible
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Originally Posted by Mark'sWRX
AFAIK, they can have a camera in Kent and a camera in Cumbria and can work out if you broke the speed limit between the two (and between any other camera you may pass on the way!)
I thought they had a 50 mile range or something? Might be wrong though
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
I thought they had a 50 mile range or something? Might be wrong though
That's the gist of it though. Basically the idea would have been to collect extensive revenues, then give the money to the sort of spackers you see on jeremy kyle... Woops, I mean improve road safety.

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Originally Posted by SRSport
But what are they? I cant find them on a google search.
They are called Spec cameras, info:

http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/specs.htm

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They dont need cameras.

Each car will ultimately be tracked......
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Hard to feel sorry for some of these guys loosing their jobs. I saw one the other day. The guy was actually hiding in some blokes garden pointing his camera over the fence a few hundred yards before the national speed limit sign.

It wouldn't be so bad if they pulled you over and looked you in the eye to accuse you of speeding instead of hiding behind paperwork and the system.

I'll say it again: I have never seen a speed trap outside a school!

Boils my p1ss every time.
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
They`ve already started work on those
What are they? Edit - seen answer above.

IMHO people are too resourceful to get caught by "machines" in the long term ... SPECS is defeated by a motorbike FFS!

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark'sWRX
AFAIK, they can have a camera in Kent and a camera in Cumbria and can work out if you broke the speed limit between the two (and between any other camera you may pass on the way!)
Impossible unless there is no way to get off the road in question, like a m/way.

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Originally Posted by pslewis
Thats fine, get rid of the fixed cameras ..... let's get many more mobile units!

Speeders know where cameras are - hidden cars and vans are much better at catching the irresponsible
http://www.blogforarizona.com/.a/6a0...b9c0970b-500wi

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
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If you don't know what it is, suggest you put your specs on as suggested in another thread

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Originally Posted by Terminator X
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by b13bat
They are called Spec cameras, info:

http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/specs.htm
Oh, these things, the ones on the M1 that restrict you to 50mph for no apparent reason other than to get you frustrated that you are travelling so slowly, raise you stress levels and make you more aggressive while driving the remainder of your journey increasing the chances of you doing something dangerous.

Yeah great idea these.
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
They dont need cameras.

Each car will ultimately be tracked......
If that day ever came I expect I'd get the "continuously faulty" box

There has been talk about insurance companies installing boxes and operating "pay as you drive" schemes.

So hypothetically, if I were breaking the speed limit I wouldn't be insured. I wonder if the pay as you go counter would stop while I was speeding? Hypothetically of course.
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I have said often enough that I think the accuracy of the speedcams cannot be relied upon enough to be used to prosecute drivers. By the same token, I don't believe that excessive speeding is right either. It is unfair on others, it reduces safety margins, and if you do have an accident it will cause more damage and worse injuries.

Our roads are just too crowded these days and also the state of road surfaces is getting worse. All that and high speeds as well is a bad combination. Speed limits are there for a good reason most of the time and it is worth remembering that none of us have a God given right to be hammering along at very high speeds and it is also a pretty selfish act when you think about it. Fifty MPH limits on motorways are surely there to protect those working on the road aren't they? Can't be justified in whingeing about that in my opinion.

I believe that the speedcams are a "cash cow" and the sooner they go the better, As was said they were not used in a sensible or fair manner and not used near schools etc. where they were really needed. I also object to being spied upon by ANPR cameras too.

I think we should go back to many more traffic police cars who would do you for speeding but also would find out if you were uninsured, pissed, or in an unsafe car. It was far better to deal with a human being who might let you off with a bollocking if you had not been really stupid.

The use of those flashing signs which tell you your speed if excessive for all to see always makes people slow down which should be the real object of the game anyway.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
The use of those flashing signs which tell you your speed if excessive for all to see always makes people slow down which should be the real object of the game anyway.
I reckon they would be of more use if they set them to 32 or 33 rather than 28 or 29!

It is very simple psychology. They get treated like the boy who called WOLF!
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Fifty MPH limits on motorways are surely there to protect those working on the road aren't they? Can't be justified in whingeing about that in my opinion.


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Oh they do work on them then, drove through 3 lots on the M25/M1 the otherday and didnt see any workers.... but saying that i was the only one it seamed sticking to 50 still
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Originally Posted by Anger
Oh they do work on them then, drove through 3 lots on the M25/M1 the otherday and didnt see any workers.... but saying that i was the only one it seamed sticking to 50 still
Just a quick thought... does anyone know someone who has been caught by an average speed camera? What about the variable speed limit cameras?
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