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Old 15 July 2010, 11:09 AM
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never been the biggest fan of face book and people popping up what they had to eat and airing personal arguments with friends and partners but the latest group with Moat and people hailing him etc i am disgusted with face book not pulling the web page down

FACE BOOK sort it out, your stand on this is disgusting

and well done to the PM nice to see he is not going to hold his tongue to be PC
Old 15 July 2010, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
never been the biggest fan of face book and people popping up what they had to eat and airing personal arguments with friends and partners but the latest group with Moat and people hailing him etc i am disgusted with face book not pulling the web page down

FACE BOOK sort it out, your stand on this is disgusting

and well done to the PM nice to see he is not going to hold his tongue to be PC
Completely agree with you.

Dont hold your tongue to the PC or to the bars in your freezer...tip of the day
Old 15 July 2010, 11:21 AM
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There are always two sides to the coin. I for one would like to know just what drove Raoul to do what he did. There is obviously more to this, and given that he is from the same(ish) area as me we are starting to hear more and more coming out over the news.

Clearly what he has done is horrible, wrong and needs to be stated as that. But when a man is in prison and has clearly asked to see professionals about the issues that he was trying to deal with, that support should be provided.

It was only this morning on the radio that leaked tape recordings of Raoul asking for assistance were broadcast. It would appear that the help was not given.

IF the authorities had done what they should have (and they had many chances), Raoul would not have managed to get into the situation to do what he did. I don't think it matters what you think of Raoul, but if the information that was available had been acted on 3 people would not have been shot....and that is a reasonable outcome of what should have happened here. Questions do need to be asked.
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...42978875714483

the issue for me is Moat being called a hero, etc!
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Old 15 July 2010, 12:03 PM
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There are always two sides to the coin. I for one would like to know just what drove Raoul to do what he did. There is obviously more to this, and given that he is from the same(ish) area as me we are starting to hear more and more coming out over the news.

Clearly what he has done is horrible, wrong and needs to be stated as that. But when a man is in prison and has clearly asked to see professionals about the issues that he was trying to deal with, that support should be provided.

It was only this morning on the radio that leaked tape recordings of Raoul asking for assistance were broadcast. It would appear that the help was not given.

IF the authorities had done what they should have (and they had many chances), Raoul would not have managed to get into the situation to do what he did. I don't think it matters what you think of Raoul, but if the information that was available had been acted on 3 people would not have been shot....and that is a reasonable outcome of what should have happened here. Questions do need to be asked.
mate not saying that he is this or that, if he asked for help and was not given it etc etc, not my point

my point is to face book and they way the have dealt with it, weather he was not given help, spare a thought for the people he killed, blinded and the heart ache it has caused their families, for the rest of their lives having to except what has been done, the poor guy who cant see and will not see his daughter walk down the isle or see his grand kids walk for the first time and yet face book let a page go ahead were people are praising the guy and calling him a hero, that is disgusting.

i agree there is probably a load more we are not being told or in fact will never know, does that make it right to go and shoot people - i think not, should he of been given help if he asked - of course but still the people behind the page and face book themselves really need to sort it out.

shall i start a page saying its alight to sleep with minors i am sure there would be loads of peado's out there wanting to join

would you be OK with that - i think NOT

as i know for sure i would not be, the same way i feel about a page has been put up praising him as a hero, mentally stable or not he has killed people and ruined lives, face book should pull the page down before it even started

rant ove
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Old 15 July 2010, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...42978875714483

the issue for me is Moat being called a hero, etc!
Good luck with that
Old 15 July 2010, 12:45 PM
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Get rid of anyone that joins or starts any type of Raoul Moat related facebook group
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Just had a look at that legend group on Facebook and saw this.

DAVID CAMERON FAILED MISERABLY IN HIS PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO SOCIALLY ENGINEER SOCIETY - YOU SHOULD STICK TO CONTROLLING WILD COPS DAVID! GET A LIFE SNOOTY DAVE YOU TOSSER - MOAT ROCKS!!!
What the ****???
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Stop giving them attention .. FB makes it money from adverts .. oh guess what that group is generating ..
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Just had a look at that legend group on Facebook and saw this.

DAVID CAMERON FAILED MISERABLY IN HIS PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO SOCIALLY ENGINEER SOCIETY - YOU SHOULD STICK TO CONTROLLING WILD COPS DAVID! GET A LIFE SNOOTY DAVE YOU TOSSER - MOAT ROCKS!!!
What the ****???
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Originally Posted by Jamie
Best not to look then.

Is that you?

Les
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Old 15 July 2010, 01:08 PM
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Yes les i came back from the dead
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
The page cannot be found

Cool must try harder
Old 15 July 2010, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
There are always two sides to the coin. I for one would like to know just what drove Raoul to do what he did. There is obviously more to this, and given that he is from the same(ish) area as me we are starting to hear more and more coming out over the news.

Clearly what he has done is horrible, wrong and needs to be stated as that. But when a man is in prison and has clearly asked to see professionals about the issues that he was trying to deal with, that support should be provided.

It was only this morning on the radio that leaked tape recordings of Raoul asking for assistance were broadcast. It would appear that the help was not given.

IF the authorities had done what they should have (and they had many chances), Raoul would not have managed to get into the situation to do what he did. I don't think it matters what you think of Raoul, but if the information that was available had been acted on 3 people would not have been shot....and that is a reasonable outcome of what should have happened here. Questions do need to be asked.
I think it's probably quite simple what drove him to do it. He was in prison and his bird was sleeping around, then left him to be with one of the guys. People would probably have been winding him up about it - maybe some of, or alot of what he was told didn't actually happen. You can say it's not acceptable in this day and age, etc, but to folk in circles that he was in, it's the norm to get revenge or settle disputes with violence. People in Glasgow get shot for reasons like that all the time, only it isn't all over the media and there isn't a huge manhunt, because on the whole these guys aren't a danger to the rest of the public. What's made his case so different is that it came so soon after the Cumbria shootings. That's the reason the media jumped all over it and the police had to put on the huge manhunt... because the public would have been really worried, thinking this was another madman on the loose and that police were useless.
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Originally Posted by Jamie
The page cannot be found

Cool must try harder
No, that is how much I dont give a ****
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All the signs of a fregoli's syndrome (believes that people are out to get them), trouble is that mixing ever increasing schizophrenia levels with more steroids is only ever going to end one way - in a brutal and violent end.

Cases like this never fail to amaze people (myself included) to the apparent complete lack of common sense deployed by the Police to control and diffuse these types of situations - and then the subsequent "twisting of the truth" that they then try to use in a vain attempt to outsmart the public into making a **** poor situation sound almost effective (that whole "no police fired a shot from a gun type thing").

People don't care about Moat, at the end of the day he's just a ginger **** in a ever lengthening line of killer nut jobs. What people are doing is registering their votes against the system, sort of like voting for Jedwood on X-Factor....

Well that's what I think
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Originally Posted by Jamie
Yes les i came back from the dead
I am now waiting for Lee to say how suave you look!

Les
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Even though the link doesn't work I'm sure I read that that is so old Hitler was recorded as laughing at it when he invaded Poland


I like the give a ***-o-meter.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
I am now waiting for Lee to say how suave you look!

Les


You are SN's Mr Suave, Les

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Originally Posted by EddScott
Even though the link doesn't work I'm sure I read that that is so old Hitler was recorded as laughing at it when he invaded Poland


I like the give a ***-o-meter.
Austria

Not Poland
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Englebert Dollfuss,Made hiltler angry so he invaded Austria first I could go on and on about the history of the war.
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Originally Posted by Lee247


You are SN's Mr Suave, Les

PMSL Lee, nearly spilt my coffee!

Les
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Originally Posted by Jamie
Englebert Dollfuss,Made hiltler angry so he invaded Austria first I could go on and on about the history of the war.
My Mum escaped all that just in time!

Les
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Glad she did les it was not a happy ending


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