Speed limit for vans on roads....
13 July 2010, 07:27 PM
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Speed limit for vans on roads....
A mate today told me that the speed limit for my Transit Van was not 70mph on a dual carridge way but 60mph...????
Unless it has a second row of seats its classed as a van and has a different speed limit.....
Thats the first ive heard of it.....is he talking out of his passage...
Unless it has a second row of seats its classed as a van and has a different speed limit.....
Thats the first ive heard of it.....is he talking out of his passage...
13 July 2010, 07:35 PM
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Have a look at this, should clear it up
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070304
give him a dead leg for talking rubbish.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070304
give him a dead leg for talking rubbish.
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13 July 2010, 09:25 PM
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All depends on the certification of the vehicle. If its M1 then its a car, N1 will be a van.
Oh and not all 'car derived vans' are able to do 70mph either. Only LCV's with a GVW of less than 2000kg. Many new small vans will be over that...........
Oh and not all 'car derived vans' are able to do 70mph either. Only LCV's with a GVW of less than 2000kg. Many new small vans will be over that...........
13 July 2010, 09:51 PM
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Well i will start doing 60mph on a dual carridge way in the future then, and never creep up to 70mph .......
Honestly.......
Is there a reason or any logic as to why a van is 10mph slower than any other vehicle...????
I could understand it if it was carrying passengers or some dangerous material......but not some work tools and a roof rack !!!
Honestly.......
Is there a reason or any logic as to why a van is 10mph slower than any other vehicle...????
I could understand it if it was carrying passengers or some dangerous material......but not some work tools and a roof rack !!!
14 July 2010, 08:52 AM
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My first "car" was a minivan and I think there was a 40 mph limit. Unless you put windows in the side! But I think there was then tax to pay....... It was all such a long time ago 
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14 July 2010, 11:54 AM
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A mate of mine narrowly escaped a ban at 81 on an NSL single carriageway in a van. One sign covers a variety of vehicles and applicable speeds, and it is your responsibility to know what you're driving and what applies to it.
14 July 2010, 02:46 PM
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don't forget 50 on a single carriageway and carriageway referes to the whole road not the lanes, a dual carriaeway must have a central reservation or be 2 seperate strips of tarmac, the number of lanes is irrelavant.
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14 July 2010, 06:25 PM
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I've been done a few times in various vans over the years.
Re the car derived van one, a peugeot expert is car derived but has a GVW of over 2000kg(just) therefore falls into the slower speed catagories.
It's difficult NOT staying with the general flow of traffic speed in a van when they're more than capable of doing those speeds and stopping from them even when loaded.
Re the car derived van one, a peugeot expert is car derived but has a GVW of over 2000kg(just) therefore falls into the slower speed catagories.
It's difficult NOT staying with the general flow of traffic speed in a van when they're more than capable of doing those speeds and stopping from them even when loaded.
14 July 2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rooferman
Is there a reason or any logic as to why a van is 10mph slower than any other vehicle...????
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Of course there is - surely you see that? It isnt lower than any other vehicle though: its a light commercial vehicle and its speed is reduced in line (very broadly) with its weight. HGVs are limited to 40mph on any single carriageway road, 50mph on dual carriageways and 60mph on motorways.
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As with 1st post. Speed limit for vans on a D/C is 60mph. and 50mph on Single carriageway, unles under 2000kgs gvw. Reason is revenue generation of course. The was talk about a move to up the limit on hgv's and vans to 50/60mph on single carraigeways to reduce congestion and increase fuel efficiency etc. but that seems to have dissapeared at the moment. Most cops will use common sense, its the scam-van operators that don't.
As for stopping distances. Well I could be driving a correctly loaded modern 44 tonner, and hit the brakes at 56mph, and I would still stop safely in the distance the highway code says a car will stop from 50mph. So the lower speed limits for safety issue is garbage.
Also judging by the number of times my vans etc. are run up the back of by cars, I am pretty sure my stopping distances are better than most anyway!!.
As for stopping distances. Well I could be driving a correctly loaded modern 44 tonner, and hit the brakes at 56mph, and I would still stop safely in the distance the highway code says a car will stop from 50mph. So the lower speed limits for safety issue is garbage.
Also judging by the number of times my vans etc. are run up the back of by cars, I am pretty sure my stopping distances are better than most anyway!!.
16 July 2010, 04:53 PM
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As with 1st post. Speed limit for vans on a D/C is 60mph. and 50mph on Single carriageway, unles under 2000kgs gvw. Reason is revenue generation of course. The was talk about a move to up the limit on hgv's and vans to 50/60mph on single carraigeways to reduce congestion and increase fuel efficiency etc. but that seems to have dissapeared at the moment. Most cops will use common sense, its the scam-van operators that don't.
As for stopping distances. Well I could be driving a correctly loaded modern 44 tonner, and hit the brakes at 56mph, and I would still stop safely in the distance the highway code says a car will stop from 50mph. So the lower speed limits for safety issue is garbage.
Also judging by the number of times my vans etc. are run up the back of by cars, I am pretty sure my stopping distances are better than most anyway!!.
As for stopping distances. Well I could be driving a correctly loaded modern 44 tonner, and hit the brakes at 56mph, and I would still stop safely in the distance the highway code says a car will stop from 50mph. So the lower speed limits for safety issue is garbage.
Also judging by the number of times my vans etc. are run up the back of by cars, I am pretty sure my stopping distances are better than most anyway!!.
fully loaded, not sure about in wet conditions though.
16 July 2010, 05:12 PM
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Using the same logic, modern cars, especially high performance ones with extremely good braking systems make an absolute mockery of the HC stopping distances, so the speed limits need to be significantly raised to cater for this, surely ?