Well thats going to put a few peoples backs out
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I know a certain fella who gets about £30k a year plus owns his own house and car, yet hasn't worked in probably 15years. I would to see him back out to work!
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"well, Mr Smith, if you can't return to work, we'll arrange to have you put down"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
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"well, Mr Smith, if you can't return to work, we'll arrange to have you put down"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
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Being fat and unable to walk or drinking yourself stupid and calling it an illness is not an disability it is a life choice so let those who choose this fund it themsleves. Incapacity benefit is a great idea and hopefully helps a lot of genuinely disabled people - as with most benefits and the uk it is being abused by the lazy and lifestyle unemployed as another handout to fund thier existence - about time something was done.
Shame NL only talked about sorting such things during thier 12 year reign and ruin, so far the con-dim's seem to be doing it!
Shame NL only talked about sorting such things during thier 12 year reign and ruin, so far the con-dim's seem to be doing it!
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You'll just get a secondary market with maybe a 10-15% discount on face value...
Because they think it wins votes and prevents them from looking like "nasty" Tories
Because they think it wins votes and prevents them from looking like "nasty" Tories
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"well, Mr Smith, if you can't return to work, we'll arrange to have you put down"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
"what!!!!"
"yes, sir, new conservative initiative, voluntary euthanasia."
"but i am sick i can't work"
"sir, there is a ressession going on, you're adding to the burden on society, you either return to work or we arrange to have you killed"
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Do you remember that cooking program from a few year's ago, 'can't cook won't cook', the dole/benifits have a similar one, 'can't work, won't work', the words can't and won't being the give away.
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There was a show like this recently, took groups of long term unemployed who apparently wanted to work and in most cases it was ust talk, either no going to interviews, not taking obs deemed below them or doing the job for a few days then going 'sick' - this is what needs tackling - attitudes and getting off asses and into work.
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There was a show like this recently, took groups of long term unemployed who apparently wanted to work and in most cases it was ust talk, either no going to interviews, not taking obs deemed below them or doing the job for a few days then going 'sick' - this is what needs tackling - attitudes and getting off asses and into work.
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I also hope this government has the nuts to deal with this, not ust because of the financial mess and the saving needed but because it is the right thing to do!
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Agreed out of the 6 or so in each group usually 2 would succeed and stick with it and i guess this is probably reflects throughout the unemployed of this country.
I also hope this government has the nuts to deal with this, not ust because of the financial mess and the saving needed but because it is the right thing to do!
I also hope this government has the nuts to deal with this, not ust because of the financial mess and the saving needed but because it is the right thing to do!
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Get the doctors that sign them off on the *sick* liable for any incapacity benefit claimants caught cheating and the numbers would soon fall.
Thing is, if Labour start carping on about the 'nasty Tories targeting the vulnerable in society' they should be reminded that I claimants tripled on their watch, from 750,000 to 2.6 million. This was at a time when they trumpeted the wondrous things bthat the NHS had done since they took power. Couldn't make all those eatra people better though could it .....
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Thing is, if Labour start carping on about the 'nasty Tories targeting the vulnerable in society' they should be reminded that I claimants tripled on their watch, from 750,000 to 2.6 million. This was at a time when they trumpeted the wondrous things bthat the NHS had done since they took power. Couldn't make all those eatra people better though could it .....
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I am in a pretty unique position in that at one stage in my career i was a fraud investigator for the dole. I was also responsible for setting up an intelligence unit so had some insight into the facts and figures. the unit was staffed with investigators and admin staff capable of detecting about £15M of benefit fraud in Northern Ireland. the conservative estimate for fraud in Northern Ireland at that stage was about £125M. that was 15 years ago, so when you ask do you think there are 2m sick in the uk, most definately yes. Put it this way the live caseload for incap in NI is around 10% of the population circa 125,000 people, so i would expect there to be at least 2 million in the UK
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A close friend who has MS, Looks normal acts normal then bam loses the use of legs or arms overnight.......then slowly regains the norm after 3/8 wks
How can the Gov judge a person like this?
MS suffers never knows what tomorrow may bring..............................
How can the Gov judge a person like this?
MS suffers never knows what tomorrow may bring..............................