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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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I await all them business leaders retrieving there support, that raising NI was a bad idea.

Well it is still happening under the Tories now is it not or is it a damn good idea now then.


You could also go on to the Tories now in power wanting to stay there, they change that you need more votes to get a vote of no confidence passed.

Its very much out with Gord in with Morecombe and little Ern

Bring me sunshine right enough, but at least the English voted for them so its all your fault so you read it here first
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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Sending shedloads of cash to Scotland, from England, a good idea? I thought you had your own Gubmint now and could raise taxes yourself and not have to burden the Brits?
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bram
I await all them business leaders retrieving there support, that raising NI was a bad idea.

Well it is still happening under the Tories now is it not or is it a damn good idea now then.


You could also go on to the Tories now in power wanting to stay there, they change that you need more votes to get a vote of no confidence passed.

Its very much out with Gord in with Morecombe and little Ern

Bring me sunshine right enough, but at least the English voted for them so its all your fault so you read it here first
As a fellow Scot, can I just ask:

What the **** are you on ?

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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Bram? I dunno..Barmy, I'd say
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bram
I await all them business leaders retrieving there support, that raising NI was a bad idea.

Well it is still happening under the Tories now is it not or is it a damn good idea now then.


You could also go on to the Tories now in power wanting to stay there, they change that you need more votes to get a vote of no confidence passed.

Its very much out with Gord in with Morecombe and little Ern
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As a fellow Scot, can I just ask:

What the **** are you on ?

I think the no confidence thing is related to this other thread I found on another forum. Written by a Labour activist it makes a shocking read

Seems the Tories in Disguise Party and the 'Old Tories' have started as they mean to go on by immediately raising the Commons majority needed for a vote of no confidence in the current Government from 50 to 55%. This is disgraceful and a complete contradiction to the Lib Dem claims about improving democratic representation. Electoral reform is apparently only for the rest of us.
However you then read the explaination of it and it makes more sense, with less spin.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/confusion...ent-19488.html

As for the rise in NI, I have seen it rumoured but seen no confirmation yet, so will pay more attention then.

Either way, I am still happy with how its turned out.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
I think the no confidence thing is related to this other thread I found on another forum. Written by a Labour activist it makes a shocking read



However you then read the explaination of it and it makes more sense, with less spin.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/confusion...ent-19488.html

As for the rise in NI, I have seen it rumoured but seen no confirmation yet, so will pay more attention then.

Either way, I am still happy with how its turned out.
The explanation makes perfect sense and seems entirely reasonable. To be honest mate, you would expect nothing less than pathetic scaremongering from a Labour activist

As for the NI, what has been stated is there will be a partial reversal. I would speculate that empoyers NI will remain the same, but employee's NI will go up by 1%, an increase that will more than be offset by the change in the tax threshhold to £10,000, so your average employee will still be better off.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
The explanation makes perfect sense and seems entirely reasonable. To be honest mate, you would expect nothing less than pathetic scaremongering from a Labour activist

As for the NI, what has been stated is there will be a partial reversal. I would speculate that empoyers NI will remain the same, but employee's NI will go up by 1%, an increase that will more than be offset by the change in the tax threshhold to £10,000, so your average employee will still be better off.
Im glad there is reason to be found
It made good sense to me when I read it and took the time to understand it too, unlike the nutty activists who just read one word and make their own interpretations of things lol.

As for the NI, I had read rumour of what you say too, and again I agree, I am sure I will survive somehow. Main thing is we get the country out of this crap. I guess we just have to accept the loony comments about Brown would not have done this, and life was great under Blair. Ignoring the facts lol
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Old May 13, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Quite..LOL..

And most of them from Pete "the ****" Lewis no doubt
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Old May 14, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the explanation about the 55% bit Snazy. I was a bit concerned about it but your link has helped a lot.

Les
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