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Old 30 April 2010, 07:40 AM
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In time they will (as in grow a pair!)
Old 30 April 2010, 08:24 AM
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Old 30 April 2010, 08:36 AM
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Old 30 April 2010, 09:16 AM
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I think it's a bad thing. Whatever you think of the burqa, it's suppressing their right to wear something. Whatever that thing is really doesn't matter. Why not ban full face bike helmets?

Stopping people wearing them in airports, for instance, is one thing, but banning them full stop? That's a bad move.

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Old 30 April 2010, 09:35 AM
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Good move Belgium

Hopefully countries are slowly learning that multiculturalism doesnt work, and they need people who want to settle in European countries to intergrate instead.
Old 30 April 2010, 09:55 AM
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Let them wear them I say. Much rather I don't have to see their invariably ugly hairy mugs. I wish a fair few western women would follow suit!
Old 30 April 2010, 10:07 AM
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For all those who disagree, are their not similar rules for "western" women, ie what they can and cannot wear, in many Muslim countries?
Old 30 April 2010, 10:41 AM
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They do in shops. Bikers (and speaking as an ex biker) don't walk round wearing their crash lids. They are for wearing when riding their bikes in case you hadn't noticed, not a fashion/religious garment

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Yes, of course you are right there. But you can wear your helmet on your bike, and in the park, in your own home, whilst having it off This is a blanket ban, quite different.

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For all those who disagree, are their not similar rules for "western" women, ie what they can and cannot wear, in many Muslim countries?
Just because another country has a repressive regime, does it make it right for us to do it? Do you advocate stoning for adultery, for instance?

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Old 30 April 2010, 10:44 AM
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We won't, as it'd cost the Government Millions fighting it in court, as every female muslim would state its against their human rights.
Old 30 April 2010, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
I think it's a bad thing. Whatever you think of the burqa, it's suppressing their right to wear something. Whatever that thing is really doesn't matter. Why not ban full face bike helmets?

Stopping people wearing them in airports, for instance, is one thing, but banning them full stop? That's a bad move.

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They can wear what they like in the country they came from, it is no different from some jungle native walking around with his ***** hanging out, he turns up in the uk and gets forced to wear "normal" clothes, even though he has spent most of his life t-bagging every plant he can find.
Old 30 April 2010, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
They can wear what they like in the country they came from, it is no different from some jungle native walking around with his ***** hanging out, he turns up in the uk and gets forced to wear "normal" clothes, even though he has spent most of his life t-bagging every plant he can find.
ROFL!! Most eloquently put!
Old 30 April 2010, 12:23 PM
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If you're female and you go to a Muslim state wearing nothing but a Bikini, or a mini-skirt See how tolerant they are to allowing foreigners to wear traditional summer clothing.

They want us to obey their clothing culture, so what's the difference when they come here?
Old 30 April 2010, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer


Just because another country has a repressive regime, does it make it right for us to do it? Do you advocate stoning for adultery, for instance?

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Not at all.

My point was suggetsing that those most likely to object should either get their own house in order, so to speak, or face being shown to be hypocrites.

I'd also like someone to point out to me why showing a bit of leg is a potential national security risk?

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Old 30 April 2010, 01:08 PM
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Mini skirts don't really stop personal identification of the wearer, in fact in many cases it could even make it easier!

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Old 30 April 2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Yes, of course you are right there. But you can wear your helmet on your bike, and in the park, in your own home, whilst having it off This is a blanket ban, quite different.
Not strictly true, the applies to public places so you could, if you wished, still wear it in your own home whilst having it off
Old 30 April 2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
If you're female and you go to a Muslim state wearing nothing but a Bikini, or a mini-skirt See how tolerant they are to allowing foreigners to wear traditional summer clothing.

They want us to obey their clothing culture, so what's the difference when they come here?
Go to sharm el sheikh in Egypt in feb/march and watch the russians walk around in thong bikinis, they have no problems. Likewise Tunisia Lebanon etc etc ....
Old 30 April 2010, 02:22 PM
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I actually agree with the Burkha ban as it will hopfully send a message that those who choose to come to live in Europe have to adapt to European culture which is perfectly possible while maintaining their religious beliefs. Anyone wether English in France or Pakistani in Bradford owes it to the place they moved to, to learn the lagnuage and respect the local culture.
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What is the local *culture*

is it knotted hankerchiefs ?
Old 30 April 2010, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
What is the local *culture*

is it knotted hankerchiefs ?
In the case of Bradford getting drunk beating up immigrants watching football and signing on the dole (probably).
Old 30 April 2010, 04:18 PM
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The immigrants in Bradford are all English
Old 30 April 2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
But you can wear your helmet whilst having it off

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Interesting idea
Old 30 April 2010, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
For all those who disagree, are their not similar rules for "western" women, ie what they can and cannot wear, in many Muslim countries?
Slightly different, wearing a berka over here doesn't offend our religious beliefs, going naked over there does.

I couldnt give a toss either way, but firmly believe that they/we follow the rules of the country they/we are in.
Old 30 April 2010, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...eils_In_Public

I wonder how many extremist nutters will be threatening all sorts once the law is passed.

It's about time the Government over here grew some ***** and followed suit.
That will never happen over here,,,,,,,,,,,,,to many soft c*nts
Old 30 April 2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Go to sharm el sheikh in Egypt in feb/march and watch the russians walk around in thong bikinis, they have no problems. Likewise Tunisia Lebanon etc etc ....
Would that be the really attractive tourist destination where 80 people were killed and over 200 injured by Islamic fanatasists in 2005? Oh, yeah, thought so .......
Old 30 April 2010, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landings
Would that be the really attractive tourist destination where 80 people were killed and over 200 injured by Islamic fanatasists in 2005? Oh, yeah, thought so .......

how is that relevant?
Old 30 April 2010, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
how is that relevant?
No no, you're right. Nothing to see here, move along ...
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landings
No no, you're right. Nothing to see here, move along ...

Sorry I'm not being funny, but is that supposed to be an answer?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Sorry I'm not being funny, but is that supposed to be an answer?
Yes


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