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Old 15 January 2010, 04:20 PM
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Question CAMERA ON THE ROOF OF A POLICE T5?????

What is the big camera for that is mounted on the roof at the rear of a police t5? Can they use it for speeding or do they have to pull you after?
Old 15 January 2010, 04:21 PM
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You will have to wait 14 days to find out
Old 15 January 2010, 04:22 PM
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Cheers lol
Old 15 January 2010, 04:25 PM
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was it round or oval (mounting/casing), mounted to the roof facing backwards around 5-8" in diameter. Likely to be ANPR if so.
Old 15 January 2010, 04:34 PM
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yes it was facing bacwards and he was there this morning and again this after noon when i fetched the kids from school. He then drove past the school 5 time and on the wy home he had a car pulled over
Old 15 January 2010, 04:53 PM
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External cameras are pretty much always ANPR (Cambs cars have two: one facing each way). Video cameras tend to be inside, and lasers etc will be hand-held.


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Old 15 January 2010, 06:49 PM
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ANPR

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Old 15 January 2010, 06:51 PM
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As has been said an ANPR camera, although they are not normally that big from the ones I have seen.

The round ones are about the same sort of diameter as a pringles can.
Old 15 January 2010, 08:23 PM
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Its a pips P362 infra red camera
Old 15 January 2010, 08:24 PM
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this one was about size of a saucer!
Old 15 January 2010, 08:28 PM
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they are actually grenade launchers!!! -- god this country is going to the dogs

it will be thought crime next - mark my words
Old 15 January 2010, 08:29 PM
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ANPR, in the look out for untaxed, flagged, uninsured vehicles.
Old 15 January 2010, 08:30 PM
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2 be fair mate if you were speeding or thay see you speeding thay would have pulled you over
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ANPR - yet another useful database created by our wonderful Govt. How long before we're getting arrested cos we look like we might commit a crime

TX.
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Probably to get a photo of the driver of the car behind them.

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Old 16 January 2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
ANPR - yet another useful database created by our wonderful Govt. How long before we're getting arrested cos we look like we might commit a crime

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They are already doing that I think!

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Old 16 January 2010, 11:25 AM
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i saw one on the back of a gmp x5 i wondered what it was.

thought it was aprojector, so they show filsm and things on walls when they are bored.
Old 16 January 2010, 11:27 AM
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Think I have seen these new cameras, they're the new blush cams. If your feeling even slightly guilty about anything you've done then these new cams will detect it straight away.
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
ANPR - yet another useful database created by our wonderful Govt. How long before we're getting arrested cos we look like we might commit a crime

TX.
ANPR is a great database. I tax, insure and MOT my vehicle and pay through the nose to do so, Why should nuggets that cant be bothered have the luxury of using the roads.
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^^ Wait til you appear on all the other databases such as "not returning you library book in time", "jaywalking", "dropping litter", "stopped in a box junction" etc. Let's not forget the DNA database of course as it's only a matter of time before we're all logged there. It's a slow process albeit they'll get there in the end

TX.
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
ANPR is a great database. I tax, insure and MOT my vehicle and pay through the nose to do so, Why should nuggets that cant be bothered have the luxury of using the roads.
This man speaks the truth, unless your vehicle is already alerted to forces throughout the UK as being connected with crime, or is missing a valid tax, mot or insurance, there is nothing to fear from ANPR.

If your car had been stolen or hijacked from you, I think you would be hoping the same T5 was lurking somewhere up the road.

For those who frequently trot out the line about "getting out there catching real criminals", that is what these guys are about. A stop for no tax and insurance will often lead to detection of other offences / crime once the vehicle is stopped and occupants spoken to.

Picture this, car gets stopped for no tax and no insurance. Police stop car. Car contains what appears to be a young couple with a child in a car seat. Police speak to driver, he seems agitated and nervous. Experienced officer thinks there is something not quite right and asks him to step out of car. Driver seems reluctant to do so, is eventually persuaded. He carries out a search of the person which reveals significant quantity of class A substance sewn into the waistband of his trousers. A further search of the vehicle uncovers more class A substances found hidden in the child seat in the back. The individual had no previous and was unknown to police. The only reason why this car was stopped was because it had no tax or insurance.

In my opinion, ANPR is justified and fully necessary to deny criminals the use of our roads.
Old 16 January 2010, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tarmac terror
Picture this, car gets stopped for no tax and no insurance. Police stop car. Car contains what appears to be a young couple with a child in a car seat. Police speak to driver, he seems agitated and nervous. Experienced officer thinks there is something not quite right and asks him to step out of car. Driver seems reluctant to do so, is eventually persuaded. He carries out a search of the person which reveals significant quantity of class A substance sewn into the waistband of his trousers. A further search of the vehicle uncovers more class A substances found hidden in the child seat in the back. The individual had no previous and was unknown to police. The only reason why this car was stopped was because it had no tax or insurance.
..and then the court lets him off with a trivial fine that is less that the unpaid road tax (let alone the unpaid insurance) which he fails to pay and disappears off into a chav-estate/pikey-camp to pick up another throw-away (un-taxed, un-insured, no-MOT, deathtrap) car to run around in!



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Old 16 January 2010, 03:52 PM
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The question is sacrifice freedom for security? or security for freedom? there is a gold line there, but in UK it seems that security is a priority. thank god in Greece, we are at least 20 years behind UK in security measures and we have much much lower criminal rates
Old 16 January 2010, 04:22 PM
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I saw a moving speed camera car doing 60mph going down to Sheffield on the motorway in October. It looked like a police car but didnt have the blue lights.

It had upward facing chevrons and on the top right corner of the roof was a camera. It wasnt obvious it was a speed camera and the only thing that gave it away was a tiny speed camera sign that was underneath it, only visible when you were a couple of meters behind it...yeah, thanks for that.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
I saw a moving speed camera car doing 60mph going down to Sheffield on the motorway in October. It looked like a police car but didnt have the blue lights.

It had upward facing chevrons and on the top right corner of the roof was a camera. It wasnt obvious it was a speed camera and the only thing that gave it away was a tiny speed camera sign that was underneath it, only visible when you were a couple of meters behind it...yeah, thanks for that.
Here is a thought for you, how do you think the Mobile Speed Cameras get between the locations?
Old 16 January 2010, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by boomer
..and then the court lets him off with a trivial fine that is less that the unpaid road tax (let alone the unpaid insurance) which he fails to pay and disappears off into a chav-estate/pikey-camp to pick up another throw-away (un-taxed, un-insured, no-MOT, deathtrap) car to run around in!



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But that is not the fault of the Police is it

I'm sure they are as frustrated by the limp wristed tw@ts that infest our judicial system as we are
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Here's a highly improbable alternative - the database is wrong & the driver spends 45mins trying to explain his innocence before Police let him go without even an apology ...

TX.

Originally Posted by tarmac terror
Picture this, car gets stopped for no tax and no insurance. Police stop car. Car contains what appears to be a young couple with a child in a car seat. Police speak to driver, he seems agitated and nervous. Experienced officer thinks there is something not quite right and asks him to step out of car. Driver seems reluctant to do so, is eventually persuaded. He carries out a search of the person which reveals significant quantity of class A substance sewn into the waistband of his trousers. A further search of the vehicle uncovers more class A substances found hidden in the child seat in the back. The individual had no previous and was unknown to police. The only reason why this car was stopped was because it had no tax or insurance.
Old 16 January 2010, 10:30 PM
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Well I just love the idea that the government can track my every move as I go about my daily lawful business.
Makes me feel real safe.
Old 17 January 2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Here's a highly improbable alternative - the database is wrong & the driver spends 45mins trying to explain his innocence before Police let him go without even an apology ...

TX.
...funny you should mention that!

See The laughing policemen: 'Inaccurate' data boosts arrest rate

including...

Originally Posted by The Independent on Sunday
Stranded: 'Police left me alone in the dark'

Bhnisha Hirani, 28, drove from Essex to Coventry to collect her belongings last October after splitting up with a boyfriend whom she feared.

She says her request for a local police escort was refused as no officers were available. But two arrived later at the ex-boyfriend's house and seized her car for being uninsured. She offered her policy number, but says the officer refused to investigate why the car did not show up on the ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) database. Police guidelines warn that ANPR data should not replace "thorough investigative inquiries and officer discretion".

Ms Hirani said the officers left her in the dark outside the house. "I was stranded – no money, no food, no coat, nothing." She stayed with a distant relative who lent her £150 to have the car released the next day.

In her complaint, she wrote: "I had offered every possible form of confirmation of my insurance at the scene and [the officer] refused to look at it. His actions were unlawful and... I will be seeking the highest level of damages."

West Midlands Police are conducting an internal inquiry.
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