Swine flu vaccination for 1 year old?
04 January 2010, 11:06 AM
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Swine flu vaccination for 1 year old?
We've had a letter through asking us to take our 14 month old daughter for a Swine Flu vaccination.
What are peoples opinions on getting this done? I've heard it can really make them ill for a few days afterwards.
Has anyone had this done to their children? If so, where there any reactions?
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What are peoples opinions on getting this done? I've heard it can really make them ill for a few days afterwards.
Has anyone had this done to their children? If so, where there any reactions?
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04 January 2010, 12:15 PM
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our doctors keeps calling up telling us we have to get our children done and don't understand when we tell them no. we were worried about it as there has been no testing of it and when you hear that nurses and doctors don't want it that normally suggests that there may be something behind it.
04 January 2010, 12:18 PM
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I refuse to let my 3 year old have this jab as it hasnt been fully tested and also I would much rather that she fought off the virus (should she ever get it) naturally
04 January 2010, 12:28 PM
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Thanks. How do you know that there has been no/limited testing of the vaccine? The ones listed in the letter are "Pandemrix" and "Celvapan". My cousin is a doctor and she said she would not have had a vaccine in it were her choice, but because of her job it's compulsory. I've not had a chance to discuss it with her yet though.
04 January 2010, 12:46 PM
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Do read up an all the side effects. I have some health issues (AF) and on medication - it made me terribly ill and knocked out my immune system allowing me to catch a couple of other nasty things which put me in hospital for 8 days being fed via a drip.
Not much fun and three weeks later i have only just fully recovered
Not much fun and three weeks later i have only just fully recovered
04 January 2010, 12:57 PM
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If my children were offered it I would probably say no.
My daughter unfortunately had swine flu last year, and she managed to get by with lots of paracetamol and cuddles.
The side effects of tamiflu can be horrible and I feel it's just not necessary. I think the risks of getting swine flu re a lot lower, and now it is easier to treat, I don't think it is as much of a threat.
My daughter unfortunately had swine flu last year, and she managed to get by with lots of paracetamol and cuddles.
The side effects of tamiflu can be horrible and I feel it's just not necessary. I think the risks of getting swine flu re a lot lower, and now it is easier to treat, I don't think it is as much of a threat.
04 January 2010, 01:53 PM
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Just don't do it ... very small chance of catching the "flu" & even if you / kid(s) do you'll probably fight it off anyways. 300 people killed to date in the UK is miniscule.
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04 January 2010, 02:44 PM
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my dr says don't go near it. if u get swine flu get on an anti-biotic to stop an infection (as it's the infections that kill you not the actual swine flu) - my 9 month old will not be getting it.
04 January 2010, 04:00 PM
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I asked this on here a while back for our daughter 8 months old (we live in France) and got a mixed response. We couldn't decide what to do 
Then she got a common cold (we think) and I don't think it can be given if you already have a virus. Then we heard on the news that in France some children had been given an overdose of the drug (given an adult quantity) so for now she isn't having it.
I don't think there have been many cases in our area or maybe we would wanting her to have it.
Tough choice
Then she got a common cold (we think) and I don't think it can be given if you already have a virus. Then we heard on the news that in France some children had been given an overdose of the drug (given an adult quantity) so for now she isn't having it.
I don't think there have been many cases in our area or maybe we would wanting her to have it.
Tough choice
04 January 2010, 04:04 PM
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Ive got the same decision to make regarding my 11month old son. I wont being taking up the offer for this jab as I dont feel its been tested and was rushed in too quickly. Also, the side effects are nearly as bad as the flu itself.
My son has been quite ill lately with coughs, colds and even being sick. He's had a bad time, but I know that his immune system is getting stronger.
Im not going to take the MMR either, and opting for the individuals which I dont mind paying for. I appriecate many say that the MMR jab is okay, but I just wont risk it.
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My son has been quite ill lately with coughs, colds and even being sick. He's had a bad time, but I know that his immune system is getting stronger.
Im not going to take the MMR either, and opting for the individuals which I dont mind paying for. I appriecate many say that the MMR jab is okay, but I just wont risk it.
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04 January 2010, 04:58 PM
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What's with the "hasn't been tested" sentiment? I thought millions had had it throughout the world without significant problems.
I'd rather risk something that has been used extensively rather than a drug which manufacturers say has passed their own, albeit approved, test regime but not used very much by the punters.
I think I'd take a 3-year old who went to say a playschool but not a 1-year old but keep him/her inside if there was a local outbreak. dl
Footnote. If you can't get hold of any ask the French as they bought 94 million doses only to be told a week later that only a single dose vaccine (not two) was actually needed. So they have 50 million doses going cheap!!
I'd rather risk something that has been used extensively rather than a drug which manufacturers say has passed their own, albeit approved, test regime but not used very much by the punters.
I think I'd take a 3-year old who went to say a playschool but not a 1-year old but keep him/her inside if there was a local outbreak. dl
Footnote. If you can't get hold of any ask the French as they bought 94 million doses only to be told a week later that only a single dose vaccine (not two) was actually needed. So they have 50 million doses going cheap!!
04 January 2010, 05:13 PM
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I must say that we as parents are very unsure about this.
04 January 2010, 05:40 PM
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Do a 'search' on this forum - the subject comes up a lot. Read some of the links posted previously and go from there.
Dave
PS: no vaccinations for us, including my 5 year old. It's only flu - and a mild flu at that. Yes I know - any flu knocks you out but everything is relative!)
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PS: no vaccinations for us, including my 5 year old. It's only flu - and a mild flu at that. Yes I know - any flu knocks you out but everything is relative!)
05 January 2010, 01:22 PM
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They do say that the illness is particularly dangerous to children and also to those with a below standard immune system.
I was listed to have it because my immune system is somewhat damaged due to past chemotherapy.
I was a bit concerned at having it but found that the worst result was a slightly sore arm.
I would be prepared to allow my child to have it because the risk of catching the disease is far more likely to have a bad outcome than having the injection.
Les
I was listed to have it because my immune system is somewhat damaged due to past chemotherapy.
I was a bit concerned at having it but found that the worst result was a slightly sore arm.
I would be prepared to allow my child to have it because the risk of catching the disease is far more likely to have a bad outcome than having the injection.
Les
07 January 2010, 11:12 AM
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Funny how the WHO called a *pandemic* so quickly and several of their *experts* are also paid by the drug companies .... http://info-wars.org/2009/11/26/worl...of-corruption/
"... WHO announced the swine flu pandemic under pressure from a panel of advisers, headed by a Dutch doctor, Albert Ostenhaus, nicknamed ‘Dr. Flu’ (from the name ‘Tamiflu’) because he was active in promoting mass vaccination of the population through WHO and the Western media. Now the government of the Netherlands is conducting an emergency investigation into the activities of ‘Doctor Flu’, as it became known that he receives a salary from several vaccine manufacturing companies. Many other WHO advisers sit ‘on two chairs’ (conflict of interest) like Ostenhaus, and while dealing with the swine flu pandemic on behalf of WHO, they do not like to advertise that they are paid advisers to pharmaceutical giants Roche, RW Johnson, SmithKline and Beecham Glaxo Wellcome, who have received the lion’s share of orders for manufacturing of vaccines. The result of pressure from these experts was the resolution of WHO on 7th July this year, which called for an unprecedented campaign of mass vaccination ..."
So, on top of the lack of testing of these vaccines, we have more evidence of the money (for the drug companies) being more important than peoples health.
Dave
PS: you could argue that this information comes from a dubious website but why lie? If I could read Dutch I'd post up a website that mentions the investigation .... but I don't ...
"... WHO announced the swine flu pandemic under pressure from a panel of advisers, headed by a Dutch doctor, Albert Ostenhaus, nicknamed ‘Dr. Flu’ (from the name ‘Tamiflu’) because he was active in promoting mass vaccination of the population through WHO and the Western media. Now the government of the Netherlands is conducting an emergency investigation into the activities of ‘Doctor Flu’, as it became known that he receives a salary from several vaccine manufacturing companies. Many other WHO advisers sit ‘on two chairs’ (conflict of interest) like Ostenhaus, and while dealing with the swine flu pandemic on behalf of WHO, they do not like to advertise that they are paid advisers to pharmaceutical giants Roche, RW Johnson, SmithKline and Beecham Glaxo Wellcome, who have received the lion’s share of orders for manufacturing of vaccines. The result of pressure from these experts was the resolution of WHO on 7th July this year, which called for an unprecedented campaign of mass vaccination ..."
So, on top of the lack of testing of these vaccines, we have more evidence of the money (for the drug companies) being more important than peoples health.
Dave
PS: you could argue that this information comes from a dubious website but why lie? If I could read Dutch I'd post up a website that mentions the investigation .... but I don't ...
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