Steve vRS

I've just read that the picture of the Spitfire that the BNP are using in their latest publicity, is in fact from a Polish unit

BBC - Nick Robinson's Newslog: BNP's 'hang generals' just 'humour'

Bloody immigrants eh

It's bad enough that the BNP were closer to the Bf109 users than the Spitfire operators...

Steve

Avi

. Saw this back in March. Nick Griffin tried to dig his way out of it though

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

You know, for all that is bad about the BNP, I actually trust him more than the current crowd we have. That in itself is a worrying thought

Tam the bam

Good point!

scoobynutta555

He came about quite plausible on CH4 news tonight and made Jon Snow look a bit of a tit, not to mention the failed Tory guest. I don't agree with much of what the BNP stands for, but I think the likes of Peter Hain etc can't blame the BNP for possible future race crime when this government has actually been responsible for thousands and thousands of ethnic deaths in Asia. Not to mention the disenfranchisement of a sizeable portion of British born 'ethnics' to the extent of home terrorist attacks.

The way that the big parties refuse to discuss the more 'uncomfortable' issues in our society, let alone deal with them (not just race and immigration) drive people to extremist groups they'd not normally have the time for.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing Griffen on Question Time. I think a few on the panel will be in for a shock as the guy seems quite articulate and very prepared.

unclebuck

The bomb is going to go off on Thursday's Question Time


When somebody finally gets to talk some common sense on the Lib/Lefty controlled mainstream.


Should be interesting (understatement)

Martin2005

That 'somebody' being Nick Griffin? The very same Nick Griffin who has a criminal record for racial hate crimes?

I'm also looking forward to Thursday night and I applaud the BBC's decision to have him on, because he and his party need to be publically challenged, and their odious views shown up for what they are.

BTW Nick Griffin has never talked 'common sense' unless you mean by that racism and/or sudo-racism are common sense

scoobynutta555

Is not waging an illegal war and killing many members of a different racial group a REAL crime not just a hate crime?

Would it not be common sense to have a prime minister with a mandate to govern? Would it be common sense to have a vote on this forced upon European Treaty? The list really does go on. Our political representitives come from parties with backgrounds of sleaze, lies and criminal acts it could be argued that Griffen has more common sense than many politicians. Very few laws passed in this country in the past decade have been formed from common sense.

Martin2005

I agree with you on most points, but none of them excuse Griffen and his National Front buddies for their views and motives

_Meridian_

iTrader: (1)

Only if the reason you are killing them is because they are a different race. The British have done that a few times in the past, but the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are for other reasons.


M

Leslie

Its worth remembering that the Polish pilots in WW2 were very good not to have a dogfight with. They were quite fearless!

Les

scoobynutta555

You've misunderstood my post.

_Meridian_

iTrader: (1)

Only slightly. You suggested it was a hate crime, and then added it might be something more. It might be something else, even a war crime, but it's not a hate crime as they victim's are not targeted because of their race.


And Griffin is still a racist bigot with no real policies beyond "wogs out!" And that's not a terribly realistic policy either.



M

scoobynutta555

Ok, I'll take the word 'just' out so it reads more clearly. But you're off on a tangent unrelated to what I was saying

I've just been on the BNP website for the first time to see if indeed they have other policies other than 'wogs out' (which I'm sure isn't their policy ) . Seems to be quite a few policies outlined, probably more than Cameron has dared to list. I may be mistaken but I thought Griffen was 'ok' with British born ethnic minorities and was against illegals and further immigration.

Of course in the unlikely event Griffen was elected PM he might have 'wogs out' as his policy and disregard all manifesto promises, just like the Labour party then with their unelected leader

scoobynutta555

You won't find this on the Labour website: "Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned."
BNP website under transport.

+Doc+

What are his views on the work shy and the benefit cheats?
I'm warming to this guy, and he isn't Scottish either!
Regardless the party will always be tarnished by the extremist followers even if they do genuinely want to make a serious attempt at seat winning through sensible policies.

Martin2005

DONT BE FOOLED!!!

This 'chap' you are warming to is a racist merchant of hate. They represent nothing good, nothing at all, they are simply appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Remember they are the Nation Front in suites!!

scoobynutta555

Judging on their law and order policy I'd say they'd be fairly harsh on benefit cheats and the work shy

billyray911

iTrader: (4)

I completely agree with the quote from Martin '05 and we should be very aware of the BNP and their kind...
...However,i also agree SN555 that after watching Griffin on the national news over the past few days,although a buffoon,i dont think it will be the one sided affair on QT that we think it might be (or hoped).Will be very interesting viewing

astraboy

"Should".
Not "Will".
I'm guessing "should" doesnt appear in their immigration policy....
ah what a surprise!
astraboy.

scoobynutta555

It's a policy manifesto of intended actions. Show me the intentions of any main political party that mirror the stated transport policy

It's a moot point anyway as they won't win the next general election!

Martin2005

Which is why they can tell you what you want to hear

cossie-nutter

iTrader: (45)

BNP All the way folks!

scoobynutta555

What's new, they're politicians aren't they? It's a rare occurrence that a manifesto is full of stuff you don't want to hear.

Martin2005

I find it striking that you and others on here are prepared to defend the BNP and their appalling agenda, and yet attack the non fascist mainstream party's

This place is like the twightlight zone sometimes

Martin2005

And here speaks the apologist-in-chief for the BNP.

Your earlier post was absolutely jaw-dropping 'Britain for the British, who could argue with that'...

Well that all depends on what that ACTUALLY means doesn't it?

Do you realise who and what it is your are defending??

And more importantly why do you feel the need to slag off mainstream politics and at the same time leap to the defense of extremists???


Oh and stop being a **** about my grammar, I was educated under Maggie!

scoobynutta555

I'm not defending anyone. I'm just interested in learning more about a party that everyone tells me are evil, especially established politicians who seem to be treating me and everyone else with contempt. Especially as they've been elected to represent us in Europe. Someone must vote for them and like their policies.

The Dogs B******s

Is she the one from 'The Simpsons'?