BlkKnight

Hi All,

My dad has just received a call from his bank saying his CC has been cloned.

The bank said that the card was cloned at High Wycombe Shell. Apparently, the garages (across the UK) have had new card readers installed, and some dishonest installers have been putting in dodgy ones which store your data un-encripted - which is harvested at a later date.

Credit card cloning ring uncovered

amongst others

J

j4ckos mate

omg they are doing it with threads now

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

I know a few people who have been done and it is always at a shell garage.

Hanley

It's been going on for years and I avoid Shell at all costs.

One point though - how do the bank know it was actually cloned at a particular garage?

SC008Y_MAD

iTrader: (5)

It happened to my dad using a Shell garage in Newport Pagnell which has since been demolished. But he first found out when his card would not work and then later someone at the same time as buying fuel, he was apparently in Canada buying babies clothing.

My dad and I still use Shell, but pay by cash.

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Normally I would have laughed as well, except for the phone call I got yesterday as I was boarding the train at High Wycombe. It was from our business branch of HSBC saying that there was a fraud marker on my business card. They went through all the security questions and lo and behold, someone has cloned my card and worse still the transactions that alerted them were chip and pin !!! That means not only was my card cloned, but they has the pin number ..****ers

And the last place I used it was a week ago at a shell station.

It didnt take too long for them to work out that me being in HW using my card and my card at the same time being in Edinburgh was impossible.
Suffice to say the card is cancelled and a new one being re-issued.

I guess it wont be too hard to track down the thief as they used the card twice in Edinburgh to buy petrol from a BP station..which I assume has plate recognition cameras.

dunx

iTrader: (3)

I use the card slot equipped pumps only !

dunx

Coffin Dodger

Them's the ones I fit the card skimmers and cameras to

superstar1

Sign of the times, the scroates come from all over the world to rip us off.
Multiculuralism is just fantastic, just can't believe the powers that be didn't see this coming.

finalzero

we got a whole spate of Shell garages doing that down my way, strangely all owned by Sri Lankens (not that I am suggesting my "bit darker then me" homies are responsible in anyway).

But this kind of stuff and other isht will surface thanks to a recession and the domino effect it has on everything in society.

BlkKnight

@ j4ckos mate

Apparently loads were done from the same garage.

His card was used in Guadalajara. . .

hodgy0_2

the chip and pin technology -- contrary to what the Banks will have you believe is flawed

those machines that you put your card into -- are hackable because they do not encrypt the traffic -- this has been prove by bods at cambridge university

and yes shell garages are the worst offenders

Cambridge researchers demonstrate chip and Pin insecurity | 8 Jan 2007 | ComputerWeekly.com

[-(o)-]

iTrader: (1)

Was round our way a few years back. Thought it had been dealt with but then my card was cloned twice inside of 3 months earlier this year. It was either Shell or a well thought of Scooby parts supplier...

Still stuck with Shell as I need 99 RON and we don't have a Tesco, but only pay with cash.

corradoboy

I'm mostly paid in cash, and pay for most things in cash. My other wage goes into the bank to cover living expenses, but I rarely use a card to pay for anything these days apart from the occasional online purchase.

mamoon2

Never use cards in a petrol station, these thing have been going on for years. Mostly done by asian groups.

And don't call me racist, I know an asian guy who does it and he even tells me they are all at it!!

The Zohan

i never pay for fuel using a card, always cash.

My local Shell has had this problem before as well

Butkus

As others have also said, I only use cash in petrol stations now for this reason. It's a pain but the people are too crooked to be trusted. I always ask for a receipt too.

Hanley

Spot on mate.....that's exactly why chip and pin was brought in.

mart360

My wife scards were stolen & used a few years back,

they tried to deny liability by stating C&P was used....


it was a ball ache, but we got our cash back...

her numbers were not with her cards at all

Mart

The Zohan

Yes, true and chip and pin is not the answer to prevent fraud
A well placed camera set up to film the keypad and a something to read the chip, these aren't 'del boys' these are sophisticated, smart and well funded criminals with access to the same technology as the cc companies have, it is worth 100's of millions to he criminals and so they do take it seriously.

easlier money that drugs and robbing banks, little to no risk to them.

StickyMicky

I always pay in cash to be honest, as above it is how i am paid, so it makes sense.

Nowadays i usually just use Asda 95 ron as it is more convenient, and usually the cheapest (plus the car can use it without blowing up )


I wonder why it is always shell ?

The Zohan

A look at who owns the franchises, runs the stations and operates the tills etc may give you a clue as to where the money ends up i'm afraid.

So, who is first to call me a racist then

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

I filled up my car at a Shell garage in Peterborough yesterday and my Credit card was declined and asking for a referral.

My sister told me about this thread so I explained to the woman behind the counter that it had probably been cloned in their station in Wycombe (only place I use that card) and she snapped back at me "it isn't anything to do with that, it's probably that the bill hasn't been paid, none of my business", this was in front of a now full shop

Too ******* right it was none of her business, I was livid at that remark because I pay the card off in full every month and it's my company credit card. Eventually she got through to my credit card people who confirmed who I said I was and got it authorised but she didn't tell me what was going on and didn't apologise.

She gave me a number to call so I called that on my way home and found out that my card had been used to attempt to withdraw £500 cash in London on the 17th, last time I used the card was on the 8th before I went on holiday. They are now issuing me a new card.

I called Shell this morning to complain about her attitude and to also complain about my card being cloned at one of their stations, I await a couple of phone calls

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Couldn't believe when you called up the other day and didnt know about my card getting done

All roads seem to point to the dodgy *******s in our area

And I bet that woman at the shell station was lucky she was behind some plexi-glass

hodgy0_2

100% agree

Simon C

Agree with the c+p comments.

some clever so and so student at Cambridge uni, put tetris on a pin pad much to the dismay of their employers and their supplier

Jap Import

My local Shell station has suffered this many times in the past. Cash is your only friend when paying here

superstar1

They slag of our way of life, culture, morals, principals, women, religion, history you name it, but they just love to make money from all the above, even better if they can rip us off.
Wouldn't go to Shell, don't believe the Optimax hype anyway, i'll stick in Tesco 99 and pay in cash.